Can I Remove The Manual Transmission Restriction On My CDL

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Lee A.'s Comment
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In Ohio have manual restriction on my CDL. Can I retake road test only in a manual to get restriction removed. Thanks Lee

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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Short answer - yes.

You would have to road test in a manual. But you better practice. You HAVE TO DOUBLE CLUTCH. I got so good at "floating gears" in school - that I FAILED MY FIRST ROAD TEST ON SHIFTS.

So practice your double-clutching so you have it down before testing.

Keep in mind also - IT WILL BE A COMPLETE ROAD TEST - NOT JUST A SHIFTING TEST.

Not sure what would happen - if you did something else (running up a curb,etc. ) that would be an AUTOMATIC FAIL - if that failure would jeopardize your currently valid CDL.

Good question though. Maybe someone here who has ACTUALLY DONE another road test to remove the restriction, can chime in.

Also curious (for folks here that have gotten their CDL's recently) - since pretty much EVERY TRAINING COMPANY is now running and testing with AUTOSHIFT TRUCKS - do people that are currently going through the process end up with an AUTO-ONLY restriction on their CDL's?

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Floating Gears:

An expression used to describe someone who is shifting gears without using the clutch at all. Drivers are taught to "Double Clutch" or press and release the clutch twice for each gear shift. If you're floating gears it means you're simply shifting without using the clutch at all.

Double Clutch:

To engage and then disengage the clutch twice for every gear change.

When double clutching you will push in the clutch, take the gearshift out of gear, release the clutch, press the clutch in again, shift the gearshift into the next gear, then release the clutch.

This is done on standard transmissions which do not have synchronizers in them, like those found in almost all Class A trucks.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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1 of my classmates at CRST wants to do same. He tod me a guy will give him 3-30 minute practice times, then meet at DMV on appointment day to test. He will need to pay Cal DMV $80+ , and $500 to this guy for use of his truck. Me I don't care I like the auto's hahaha

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

DaveDiesel's Comment
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Can I retake road test only in a manual to get restriction removed.

In order to get the restriction removed, you will need to pass the pre-trip inspection and road test.

I went through this process in Pennsylvania.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

40 Days's Comment
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I did this after passing in an auto with Prime. I had to redo pretrip and road test. No shifts in intersections and double clutch required. I am glad I did!!!

Double Clutch:

To engage and then disengage the clutch twice for every gear change.

When double clutching you will push in the clutch, take the gearshift out of gear, release the clutch, press the clutch in again, shift the gearshift into the next gear, then release the clutch.

This is done on standard transmissions which do not have synchronizers in them, like those found in almost all Class A trucks.

Bob H.'s Comment
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Would also need a CLP in order to practice and test

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Old School's Comment
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Would also need a CLP in order to practice and test

Bob, I don't think that's correct. I see what you're saying, but we've had several people go through this process and I've never heard any of them say that was necessary.

How about it guys? What's been your experience?

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Old School's Comment
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This is merely the process of removing a restriction from your current CDL. I can't see a learner's permit being required for that.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rick S.'s Comment
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Would also need a CLP in order to practice and test

This is merely the process of removing a restriction from your current CDL. I can't see a learner's permit being required for that.

Hmmmmm....

Technically - if you have a manual restriction on your CDL - you are not permitted to drive a manual transmission.

Pretty sure you won't need a CLP (though I'd check with your local DMV), but you would likely need to have a driver with an unrestricted license in the cab with you.

This is one of those "weird things".

You can't necessarily get a CLP without downgrading your current CDL (something you likely wouldn't want to do). Though I wouldn't want to try and explain to a cop if you get pulled over (though they would probably let you slide).

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Lee A.'s Comment
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Bmv in Ohio made me get a CLP to practice in a manual doesn't effect my current CDL. Just can't add any endorsements to my current CDL until I take test or cancel my temp permit.

Lee

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Bmv:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

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