Any Federal Law For Right On Red?

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Turtle's Comment
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For four-wheelers, in almost every state, "yielding" instead of "stopping" for right on red is legal.

Mr. J, repeating the same statement won't make it any less false. Wishing it to be so, doesn't make it so. The fact of the matter is, with very few exceptions, you are required to come to a full and complete stop before turning right on red. That goes for both commercial vehicles and four wheelers. The only exceptions, as noted above, are intersections that have clear signage indicating you may do so.

So I ask again: where are you getting this from? Show me where it says you may do so on a state or national level, as you say.

Better yet, I'll do the work for you. I already showed you Tennessee's code. Pick another state, and I'll show you that one as well.

RealDiehl's Comment
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We need a brave member to go out state to state to performan an experiment to see which states allow what.

Hey, Anne! If your not doing anything...šŸ˜

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Challenge NOT accepted by me. Rarely do I perform the Right on Red option. My main reason is all those weasel attorney billboards we see along many of our routes around this country. "Evil Truck Is Always Guilty Of Malicious Driving." Normally, I'll wait the 30 seconds it takes for my green light to appear.

I know what you mean. Grrr!!!

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HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rob D.'s Comment
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Big J says:

The FMCSA explicitly stated that it is legal to "yield" for a right on red. The FMCSA does not require a "stop" for right on red.

Cite to an official FMCSA regulation or guidance letter.

If you can't all readers should disregard this statement.

Also cite to any state law that says yielding at a red light is the default rule.

Rob

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Mikey B.'s Comment
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For four-wheelers, in almost every state, "yielding" instead of "stopping" for right on red is legal. This was taught in Driver's Ed. Every DMV , and "Secretary of State's Office" (or whatever office-equivalent for a particular State handles vehicular laws) must comply with all FMCSA laws, but may implement their own State vehicular laws if not already set by the FMCSA. The FMCSA explicitly stated that it is legal to "yield" for a right on red. The FMCSA does not require a "stop" for right on red.

However, my concern here is whether FMCSA or DoT has different laws for a tractor-trailer combo, compared to a standard vehicle, requiring a complete stop instead of a yield for tractor-trailers.

Also note, that most States will have signs at the intersections saying "stop right on red" (or have a light) if it's required to stop right on red. Where I yielded for my right on red, would be legal for a four-wheeler, I'm just trying to find out if it was legal for a tractor trailer by DoT and FMCSA.

I call BS on you. I think you're full of ..it. others have shown you where it's not legal yet you still claim it is going so far as to state that "This was taught in Driver's Ed. Every DMV, and "Secretary of State's Office" (or whatever office-equivalent for a particular State handles vehicular laws)." Show me anywhere in any of those places it says you can do a rolling stop if you are turning right. Otherwise stop making false claims before some rookie actually believes you and ends up with a ticket. Just stop. Proof or you're full of..it.

DOT has the same laws for tractors as for cars...STOP before turning right on red lights and stop signs.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Exactly! A red light means STOP! Always has since the beginning of lighted traffic signals. Before lights, the STOP signs were RED, and still are. If it was the intention of having traffic yield only, there would be a sign or a flashing amber light.

See where we're going with this? If not, allow me to help:

RED = STOP

Got it?

PackRat's Comment
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Could this be Todd again...?

Mikey B.'s Comment
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Could this be Todd again...?

I doubt it, at least Todd's stuff is enjoyable, and fun to a degree, this guys stuff is just dangerous. He needs to put up or shut up...well post up or shut up....

Donna M.'s Comment
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Actually I donā€™t think a school bus nor a truck with hazardous material can turn right on red.

Chris L's Comment
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Packrat wrote:

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We need a brave member to go out state to state to performan an experiment to see which states allow what.

Hey, Anne! If your not doing anything...šŸ˜

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Challenge NOT accepted by me. Rarely do I perform the Right on Red option. My main reason is all those weasel attorney billboards we see along many of our routes around this country. "Evil Truck Is Always Guilty Of Malicious Driving." Normally, I'll wait the 30 seconds it takes for my green light to appear.

I concur with Packrat I always wait for the green light to turn even if right on red is allowed. It's basically a habit that I pick up from my School Bus driving days. In New York School buses are not allowed to make a "Right on Red" turn you must wait for the Green light.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (momcat)'s Comment
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We need a brave member to go out state to state to performan an experiment to see which states allow what.

Hey, Anne! If your not doing anything...šŸ˜

Roflmao~!!! rofl-3.gif

Maybe after the snow storms; I'll get back to y'all on that!

ps; In Florida, we did it all the time....that much I can attest to.

~ Anne ~

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