Lithium, What's The Big Deal?

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Turtle's Comment
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A substance such as lithium isn't going to have the same side effects in every individual.

No, but it can possibly have drastic side effects in some individuals. Should a carrier be willing to risk millions in a judgement when the trial lawyers find out a driver was either bipolar, or taking a drug known to sometimes present motor impairment, or both?

That's where this "hate" comes from, that you speak of.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't take the drug/substance.

Nobody said that. The carriers just don't want them driving on it.

Then I relate to my own position, and I fear how their judgment will condemn me, and I'm insecure about it.

That's the problem. This isn't about just you or your position. It's about everyone. You're thinking about this on a personal level. You need to take that up with the doctors, or DOT. We can't help you with that.

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Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Chris P.'s Comment
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That's the problem. This isn't about just you or your position. It's about everyone. You're thinking about this on a personal level. You need to take that up with the doctors, or DOT. We can't help you with that.

That's the thing, since all drugs effect people differently, it should be judged on an individual level.

Tylenol can cause severe diziness or trouble breathing. Does that mean truck drivers shouldn't take it? Aspirin can cause trouble breathing, seizures, etc. It's basically name a drug and there will be some side effect that would be dangerous for a driver. I expect the truck driver to have the common sense not to take the drug if they know it effects them negatively. In regards to a lawsuit: if we all act in fear of other people's stupidity then stupidity wins and dictates policy.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Turtle's Comment
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But you can't conflate different drugs into the same category. They have vast differences in the percentage of users suffering the negative side effects.

I don't have the exact numbers, you can do your own research on this. But something like Tylenol or aspirin is used by millions, with a very very very small likelihood of negative side effects. Then you have lithium, where I read something like 20% of users show impairment.

Apples and oranges.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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That's the thing, since all drugs effect people differently, it should be judged on an individual level.

That would open up an entire van load of worms. If companies had to do individual evaluations for prescriptions, how would that work? How much would that cost the company? As it is, there are absolute bans on some prescriptions. If a student wants an "individual evaluation" then his or her doctor has to sign off on it, but even so the company can reject the doctor's opinion. When a drug is on the prohibited list of any company, boom, that's game set and match. Don't expect any company to change it's rules for each individual applicant.

PackRat's Comment
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Radium is found in nature too. Should we injest it? How about peyote? Maybe I could see my trip plan before it happens.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Radium is found in nature too. Should we injest it? How about peyote? Maybe I could see my trip plan before it happens.

That's hilarious, I don't care who you are!

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Consider this: some carriers do not allow allergy meds such as benadryl, zyrtec or Allegra. All bought over the counter. You can't take cough syrup

As per Primes safety department 8 was told I can only take machines or comtrex when ill.

Turtle is right... it's about lawsuits and not illness. If the lawyer can sway people to believe it is "possible" a driver had a reaction before slamming into a family of 4 in a Toyota and killing them... the carrier doesn't have a chance. Sorry

Ambien and Trazadone are on the banned list also

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Consider this: some carriers do not allow allergy meds such as benadryl, zyrtec or Allegra. All bought over the counter. You can't take cough syrup

As per Primes safety department 8 was told I can only take machines or comtrex when ill.

Turtle is right... it's about lawsuits and not illness. If the lawyer can sway people to believe it is "possible" a driver had a reaction before slamming into a family of 4 in a Toyota and killing them... the carrier doesn't have a chance. Sorry

Ambien and Trazadone are on the banned list also

OUCH . . . machines ?!? Got a website? I could use a Ventilator (or venti?) 'machine some days when MY allergies kick!

I take CHILDREN'S Claritin (Grape, haha!) .... but then again, I'm a 128 (or 130?) pound wimp anymore. Working out... slowly. Torn rotator cuff really hit me hard; still is.

YET, my hubby's back patches contain 'trace' amounts of Belladonna! Go figure.

IJSDK.

~anne~

ps: good to see ya, Rainy! I direct 'all i can' to your YT, jsyk!

Davy A.'s Comment
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Radium is found in nature too. Should we injest it? How about peyote? Maybe I could see my trip plan before it happens.

What a long strange trip it's been?rofl-2.gif smile.gif

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