The Verdict Is In……. 110 Years Concurrent Life Sentences

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PackRat's Comment
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Totally agree Banks!

As far as I’m concerned he is a murderer. He knew he was in the wrong, otherwise he would not have tried to run to escape.

Banks is right Chris... you have no clue what you are advocating here. It’s far too easy to get a CDL... and this kind of crap puts an exclamation point on that.

What is a fair sentence Chris? 10 years? 20? You assume hypothetically he’d be employable once he got out. He’d possibly be sucking off the government for the rest of his life.

Tired of the trending “free pass” attitude in this country.

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Banks,

I don't disagree that he made a series of poor choices. I just don't think he deserves a sentence that's more than what most murderers get. I also don't see why we should waste our tax payer money to keep someone locked up for life that isn't dangerous to us. I say let him earn money and take it from him to pay the victim's families back.

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How much is 4 lives worth? What dollar amount do you think is fair? You don't think that a person's poor decisions that costs someone else the ultimate price, shouldn't be imprisoned? There's a difference between an accident and negligence. He decided to put people's lives in danger because stopping would cost him, maybe 30 dollars. Maybe giving the families those 30 dollars will make things right. He loses the 30 dollars and everything is even.

You're not understanding the seriousness of this and it's probably because you're not out there. There are guys like this running all over the interstates. Poorly trained making bad decisions and that effects everybody. If this guy got off light, what message does that send? What happens when it's somebody you love? I don't want to be worried for my life if I have to pull over because of mechanical issues and I don't want the school bus my kid is on to get rammed into by a truck going 85 (possibly more) MPH because somebody is too stupid to know that smoking brakes means stop and if it's too late, take the ramp..I definitely don't want his eyes closed when he collides leaving it all to fate. He deserves what he got. There is no empathy here.

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Precisely!

Lots cry for leniency unless it's their loved one in the coffin.

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Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Interstate:

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HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Papa Pig's Comment
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I have no sympathy for this driver at all. He chose to drive into those people. Also if you say that you have a runaway truck and you wouldn’t use a ramp I have no respect for you either and think you should turn in your CDL. This is a dangerous job and we take it knowing that at some point we will may have to put a truck in a ditch, on its side, up a shoddy looking ramp or over a dang cliff if need be to avoid killing innocent people.

From what I understand if he had plead guilty and not went to trial the punishment could have been a lot less. But if you are convicted from a jury trial the judge is bound to give you at least the minimum on each charge.

Read the case, find the actual charges. This dude deserves everything he got and more.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Chris P.'s Comment
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Papa Pig,

What I am saying is that I can relate to his decision to not take the run away truck ramp since it went down hill. I was under the misconception that they worked with gravity, when in reality, they work with friction. He couldn't predict there would be a truck blocking his path further down the road, etc. Now that I know how the ramps work, it's obvious he should have taken it.

Trucking schools should probably all have their students learn from this guy's mistake. Like I said, when I was in school, the instructor actually told us a story about him losing his brakes, and avoiding the run away ramps. His story doesn't end with him going to jail because he didn't run into a wall of cars further down the road.

It's easy to be vindictive and say the guy deserves it all, but all it does is cost us money while he rots in jail. Anyway, I signed the petition, and I think it's very likely he'll get his sentence reduced, at the very least.

Jimmy B.'s Comment
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First I would like to wish all the truck drivers a MerryChristmas. Now about the sentence that was handed down to the driver in Colorado. First I'm retired after 39yrs of driving a semi truck with a clean driving record and million miles of safe driving. After driving the mountains of Colorado the west and Northwest I learned a lot. One thing I learned is you can't take a person with no experience driving plus no experience running in the mountains and put him or her in a truck that probably would run at least 70mph loaded to the hilt and tell them they have to be there tomorrow then I personally the company safety person and maybe the CEO of the company should be receiving the majority of the sentence. Having said that I believe that the driver is responsible for his/her actions and if you screw up like this young man did then you deserve what you get. If you couldn't read the signs that was his fault again the people he killed and injured deserve to be made as whole as possible.

Andrey's Comment
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[...] all it does is cost us money while he rots in jail. Anyway, I signed the petition

So you signed the petition, you obviously want to see this guy get out of prison sooner. Do you think it will reduce your taxes? How exactly will it cost you less?

Mikey B.'s Comment
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Chris P, don't take this the wrong way. How you could say you wouldn't have taken the runaway truck ramp because it ran downhill baffles me. Common sense would tell you they built it and put signs up for a reason. Only someone with ZERO common sense (and questionable intelligence) would think they would spend tens of thousands of dollars to build a ramp and put multiple signs up with the intention of tricking unsuspecting truckers whose brakes failed into using it only to run to their death. WTF man? How does your brain come up with shizz like that? Again, don't take this questioning statement the wrong way but damn man, really?

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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So Chris... I asked you what you thought was a fair sentence. You haven’t answered the question.

This is Willful Negligence. He’s a murderer.

BK's Comment
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I have to agree with Mickey, G Town, Audrey, etc. that this guy should be locked up for life. What I don't understand is why the people who enabled him to get in the driver's seat aren't sharing the same jail cell? Oh, I guess it's just another example of how screwed up our society is.

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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I have to agree with MIKEY, G Town, ANDREY, etc. that this guy should be locked up for life. What I don't understand is why the people who enabled him to get in the driver's seat aren't sharing the same jail cell? Oh, I guess it's just another example of how screwed up our society is.

Screwed up it IS, Mr. Bruce. To the Nth degree.

See THIS, where the attorneys make TROPHIES out of brake parts????? That's a HUGE kick in the teeth, to our profession, the victims, and society as a whole....and .. the driver. He 'is' a human.

(It's since been deleted from Facebook, so I hope y'all can see this:)

Mederos Mementos. . .

And then, one is left to wonder. . .3 to 5 for Treble Fatality. What's fair? Just wow.

All I've EVER suggested, passionately, is mandatory ESL classes (starting 02/07/2022 as well, if not sooner, than the ELDT.)

~ Anne ~

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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And then . . . this.

Another 'trophy?'

SMH..

IDK ... just learn the language of the country which you drive in!

Truckers' Boycotting.

~ anne ~

Gnight~!

Drink a cold one, for my b'day !!!

:)

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