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Driver_engineer 's Comment
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A few factors were they have several different endorsements I can work up to and I was told that really helps get to specific trucking career goals. Also they are very supportive. They didn't rush me in getting the CLP fast, they congratulated me for passing, answered my question directly and elaborated on a few things I didn't understand. They scheduled the start but they are being supportive and asked if I needed more time before I start and took time to answer all my questions. CFI will definitely be considered if something doesn't work out with Schneider.

What factors influenced your decision?

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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No here’s a compelling reason to choose CFI over all the rest…

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At CFI we can talk hands free while we drive. That's against Schneider's rules.

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Seriously, is that still SNI's policy?

Yesterday, here was Tom's day; front row to the dump truck that for reasons unknown, drove off the i71 SB right lane, Tom was beside him, almost made an attempt at passing. Next thing, whoosh... that truck in the right lane breached the guard rail, and the sound of metal and trees, and...some dash cams should be silent.

If Tom were forbidden from calling 911, and me, and that drivers' company, finally his own company, and manning the CB, (all hands free BUT for the CB) he'd have walked, or gotten fired for the 1st time in his 22 years' driving career. OHGO was ALSO pulled up (the app) on his cellphone, as well as here, at the house; I was trying to 'look ahead/behind' for him. There are still clips. I've deleted the ones I'd had here.

I carried on my day, cooking, typing, working, making phone calls, NEVER knowing what Tom had gone through. A few other folks I 'did' speak to that day, made mention, GEE, he's calling you a lot.. talk to texting a lot. I NEVER KNEW THE FATE. THE REST OF THE STORY. Until he got home.

I should have followed my gut, and watched more on the OHGO app; he dissuaded me yesterday. Odd, it should have seemed; We've done this MANY times through the years on the larger highways. Although it isn't 'quite' a CB (and I can't afford nor learn a H.A.M. to yap with him) I've seen him and screen shot him (when it was fun...) many times. It's gotten old, but for the serious things.

This post is not really a double entendre ... I'm not advocating for anything or anyone, but that sure seems like a primitive and safety prohibitive rule. Technically, he wasn't parked; so ... violation from SNI?

If I were still a literary student, I'd call my post a 'focus and diffuse' example, if even a modicum of either. I'd be angry as lava if Tom had lost his job with Schneider (or honestly, ANY company for that matter) over this scenario.

With as many 'things' that DO, WILL, AND CAN happen; in the day of a driver... I've got to seriously frown on that as a core principal. I've kept MANY a driver AWAKE when they've driven an odd circadian swap shift; bluetooth on their end. They are here; they know who they are, and I'd answer again, for any drowsy driver. Any. Time. I have.

Does this beg one to think, that this 48 y/o young driver, had a prohibitive rule similar, and was drowsy? Or a medical emergency, but was afraid to ring up his Teledoc????

Guys & Gals, I'm not one to be combative, political, nor comparative.

This thread just begged what I happened to have to offer; and to share.

Delaware County accident on i71 at Gemini Place exit; 08/05/2022

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He's been quiet today. Bits and pieces last night/early a.m. ~ needless to say, over on his clock in so many ways. Never did ask/hear how they handled THAT one. (Ideas, anyone?) G'Town... enlighten me.

The driver of that combo dump/cement didn't make it. Details (some) in article above. No other pictures Tom attempted to take came out; oddly. His finger/hand was in every.single.one. so, . . . somebody 'else' had a hand in it, perhaps.

OKAY, this is not about all that, at all. I'm not here to 'wax poetic.' I'm just saying, personally I'm not loving the 'no phones period/at all' if you are turning miles. As you can see from the ELD,... well, yeah.

Figured this'd be a great place to fit in Tom's shyz day, as any. Not every day you watch .. what he saw. The police got the details more than I did. They've got his (and others') dash cams, as well.

In my many years with Tom, there are times ... when as the wife, I just know when to .. leave 'lone. R.I.P., driver .... your shift has ran its final, and you've got this with your 18 diamond lugged wheels on the 'PAVED OF GOLD HIGHWAYS,' good sir. That cement/concrete you were hauling, had an address only YOU were dispatched to. Nobody knew why it was mixed with 24K gold flecks. Maybe you did; Tom's pretty sure HE did.

This was hard to type; figured this'd be a good a thread, as any.

Be safe, drivers; families, one and all... no matter the name on the door, nor the product you haul.

~ Anne & Fam ~

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Steve L.'s Comment
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And that’s encouraging Steve? I’ll bet if I replied like that you’d post some derogatory, judgmental remark.

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What factors influenced your decision?

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~ Anne ~

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OMG I'm laughing right along with Anne, and that's a BAD THING?

GEEZ, people. SMDH!

Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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OMG I'm laughing right along with Anne, and that's a BAD THING?

GEEZ, people. SMDH!

Nope, not to me, Steve!! Heck, that's my SECOND mic drop this week, all over the same 'lad' !!

I'm not McDonald's, but .... "I'm Lovin' It !"

Steve, I'd say 'Pet Snooty for Me . . ' but at least I'd gotten to myself many times, before his fate/accident, and before I left Florida. He lived a great, long life. I'm a Manatee HS alum; and the Bishop Planetarium 'most passes held/bought patron!!!' Re: Pink Floyd Light Shows, I'm thinking..Lol! I had some of the BEST times in that area; that curve around the Manatee County Public Library, I dropped the timing chain in my '79 Chevette on the curve, RIGHT before the drug / rehab rowhouses .. and kept popping the clutch and pushing 'er forward, until in a safe zone.

I had some great times. (Tougher days, haha!)

You can side with me any time, good sir. It's appreciated !!! And ride, too . . . when I get there!

~ Anne ~

BK's Comment
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Schneider requires their drivers to pull over to a safe location and park before using their phone. I believe they can stop and use the phone to call 911 in an emergency. This rankles many a driver, but it is still their rule.

You are also not allowed to carry “bodily fluids” in the truck. So, no p*** bottles, but I know many drivers just disregard that rule.

G-Town's Comment
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I’d be shocked if Schneider did not allow using the phone in an emergency. The situation may prevent parking or moving anywhere. Pull the brakes, shut the motor off and call 911.

It does raise an interesting point…

Even if hands-free, does that lower the distraction risk to near zero? I think everyone is different, but I do understand the policy.

For me, I try to limit the number of calls and definitely the duration while I’m driving. Depending on the task at hand, no calls at all; like inclement weather or negotiating a tight situation on a job site or customer. Common sense (where have we heard that before?)

But I do believe if given an inch, some people will take a mile. So…I understand the intent of the policy. I’m sure statistics and insurance cost played into this. Is it a reason to work at a company other than Schneider? IMO, for a rookie, no.

I’m old enough to remember when there were no cell (mobile) phones… in an emergency, a life saver, otherwise…

Schneider requires their drivers to pull over to a safe location and park before using their phone. I believe they can stop and use the phone to call 911 in an emergency. This rankles many a driver, but it is still their rule.

You are also not allowed to carry “bodily fluids” in the truck. So, no p*** bottles, but I know many drivers just disregard that rule.

Harvey C.'s Comment
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Curious: Does Schenider allow use of a CB?

A long-time family friend drove for Schneider for 16 years and loved it. Prior to that he drove for Nestle before they shut down their private fleet (interestingly Michael now drives on a dedicated Nestle fleet). The friend is permanently disabled with back problems that affect his ability to maintain balance and pain is so bad in his feet that he can only sleep with ice packs on them. He really wishes he could still be driving for Schneider. He did say they were very safety conscious, saying he might get a call if sensors indicated he took a curve in the road faster than recommended, etc.

BK's Comment
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Yes, Schneider does allow CB radios. My trainer had one. If I remember correctly, their shop had to install it and the antenna, this seems to be the standard policy among most companies. They don’t allow the driver to make alterations and installations, for obvious reasons. Also, you are right about the safety phone calls. I had one of those and when asked about it, I couldn’t remember any critical event. I told my DM that the sensors must be way more sensitive than I was. But Schneider DM’s will be on the phone about over speeds as quick as a duck on a June bug.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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Yes, Schneider does allow CB radios. My trainer had one. If I remember correctly, their shop had to install it and the antenna, this seems to be the standard policy among most companies. They don’t allow the driver to make alterations and installations, for obvious reasons. Also, you are right about the safety phone calls. I had one of those and when asked about it, I couldn’t remember any critical event. I told my DM that the sensors must be way more sensitive than I was. But Schneider DM’s will be on the phone about over speeds as quick as a duck on a June bug.

^^^ Wouldn't that be terms for dismissal, perhaps in the form of a 'set up' / sting type operation?

Or ... is it just okay for the DM (or DBL?) to call YOU?! Double edged sword, if you ask me. . .

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ps: OKAY, somebody with an 'S' name gave me this idea/intel, haha! Credit where due, y'all!!

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Wouldn't want a driver hooking up two wires and a coaxial cable.... SMH.

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