Non-CDL, E-logs, Weight Stations, Ohio.

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Randall B.'s Comment
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Hey guys, I'm returning to driving after a 5-year break and have recently started a non-CDL job. I've been online searching for answers for 2 days now about E-logs and when you are required to log and if I'm supposed to scale from a non-CDL standpoint. I deliver Quartz slabs primarily in Ohio and about once a week I run to Penn. to grab slabs from our main warehouse/office there. My manger says he doesn't "THINK" I need to do these things, but I want to make sure and protect my license since I do still carry a CDL. Also, if I do need to log are there any good E-Log apps for your phone?

Thank you

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anne A. (and sometimes To's Comment
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Hey guys, I'm returning to driving after a 5-year break and have recently started a non-CDL job. I've been online searching for answers for 2 days now about E-logs and when you are required to log and if I'm supposed to scale from a non-CDL standpoint. I deliver Quartz slabs primarily in Ohio and about once a week I run to Penn. to grab slabs from our main warehouse/office there. My manger says he doesn't "THINK" I need to do these things, but I want to make sure and protect my license since I do still carry a CDL. Also, if I do need to log are there any good E-Log apps for your phone?

Thank you

Hey, Randall !!

So, you are under 26K GVWR .. yes? Running hotshot? I'm in Ohio, as well (mentioned to ya before, haha!) and am doing some searching for you. Putting 'feelers' out, if you will.

Sure would've been nice had you mentioned this, prior to the 'conundrum,' tho! LoL ~ I'm checking w/some trucker pals.

Are you intrastate only, or interstate? DOT med card still good? Asking, to pass on the info...

The more info you provide, the more I can check for ya, thanks!

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

GVWR:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

GVWR is the maximum operating weight of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer, minus any trailers.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

PackRat's Comment
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I was wondering about how your situation with CRST ended, Randall? You were out on the road there for less than three months then quit. Now you state you've had a 5 year break, while showing up here again, now as an "Experienced Driver."

Where was this "experience" as a commercial driver attained?

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

George B.'s Comment
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Once again, ladies and gentlemen, the gap band! You dropped a bomb on me!smile.gif shocked.png rofl-3.gif

PackRat's Comment
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Once again, ladies and gentlemen, the gap band! You dropped a bomb on me!smile.gif shocked.png rofl-3.gif

Just read his comments history from the only other posting on here more than five years ago.

Lots of members typed up tons of facts and advice, yet here we are hanging all this time. "Drive-by posting" or "Drama-and-Run" is what I call it.

Randall B.'s Comment
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I have 3 Years driving experience. I took a break in November of 2017 due to a back injury. I quit CRST because they wouldn't give me enough miles. I cleared up my conflict with them and continued driving for other companies, mainly local. I am at a point where I want to drive again and was offered this position out of the blue for decent pay at the moment. They are planning on getting a Class B truck here soon and that is why I took it. I am finding it hard to get information on non CDL driving jobs and that is why I reached back out to this group. I want to protect my license and make sure the company isn't going to screw me over because they don't know what they are doing when it comes to drivers.

I was wondering about how your situation with CRST ended, Randall? You were out on the road there for less than three months then quit. Now you state you've had a 5 year break, while showing up here again, now as an "Experienced Driver."

Where was this "experience" as a commercial driver attained?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Randall B.'s Comment
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Hey Anne,

Yes, I am 26K GVWR. I'm not a hotshot driver. Interstate with current DOT Medical Card.

Randall

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Hey, Randall !!

So, you are under 26K GVWR .. yes? Running hotshot? I'm in Ohio, as well (mentioned to ya before, haha!) and am doing some searching for you. Putting 'feelers' out, if you will.

Sure would've been nice had you mentioned this, prior to the 'conundrum,' tho! LoL ~ I'm checking w/some trucker pals.

Are you intrastate only, or interstate? DOT med card still good? Asking, to pass on the info...

The more info you provide, the more I can check for ya, thanks!

~ Anne ~

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

GVWR:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

GVWR is the maximum operating weight of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer, minus any trailers.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Randall B.'s Comment
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Sorry PackRat,

I meant 2 Years in my reply I just noticed it said 3. Life has been crazy the last few years and I am now ready to get back to driving. The whole CRST thing was a mess due to a lot of miss information I was receiving. I was able to continue driving and eventually settled things with my non-compete clause with them. My CDL was disqualified in November of 2017 due to a back injury that prevented me from walking without collapsing randomly. It took a few months to get back to walking normally and at the point I didn't care to go back to driving. My experience is mainly from Straight trucks (Class B), but I still carry a Class A License.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Ryan B.'s Comment
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Having read your posts in this thread this is what I see:

You have taken a job offer from a company that you are not sure you can trust. You want to protect your CDL , but you are seriously considering working for a company that you think might jeopardize your CDL.

Here is my response, based on what I see:

You are making desperation moves in a job market where such moves are not necessary. Apply for companies that you know have a solid reputation. Avoid Mom&Pop outfits where it's debatable whether or not everything is 100% legal.

Unless there is something you are not telling us that prevents you getting a job with a decent company, you don't have to put yourself in this position. So, make the decision. Either stick with the easy job where it sounds like you can ignore regulations if you want, or actually protect your CDL by working for a company that demands drivers adhere to regulations.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

G-Town's Comment
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Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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