How To Give Advice To A Friend That Doesn't Take Advice?

He made it 2 days, Jack knifed in Wyoming, been stuck there for a few days

Sometimes people have to learn hard way. Hopefully he will keep his job, and be able to use this experience as a valuable learning experience.

Cancun has been a blast.

He made it 2 days, Jack knifed in Wyoming, been stuck there for a few days

That's not surprising. Do you think he learned anything, Davy?

Laura

I don't think he did, in looking at his social media posts about it. In my opinion, seeking attention for it and not realizing the gravity of the situation. It resulted in a tow, so I would assume that's an incident or accident on his record. I'm also guessing it's listed preventable.

I know the guys attitude and based on that, I would say he's not a good candidate for being a driver or having a lasting career in this industry. While he was ok this time, what if there had been a vehicle next to him? We are to some degree, shepherds out here, with the four wheelers being our flock. I think we have an inherent responsibility to make travels safe.

Davy wrote:

We are to some degree, shepherds out here, with the four wheelers being our flock. I think we have an inherent responsibility to make travels safe.

This is brilliant! Totally 100% agree. In fact if drivers and student drivers do not feel this way… they shouldn’t be out here.

So actually, luckily he jackknifed in Wyoming is the way I see this. If he had been attempting Wolf Creek Pass with poor road conditions, he'd probably be dead. Sounding like he was determined to do it the hard way and drive, an accident was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Better to do it on a straightaway on I-80.

As a hard head myself, I can understand the point made of a driver feeling like he can make a go of it and just be careful. I have done this myself, but I also have an understanding of when it's best to play it safe. My first winter driving, there was a major snow storm and OH DOT advised people to stay off the roads unless necessary. I took this to mean my rookie butt needed to sit it out, which I did. I sat for almost 2 whole days. I am glad that I did because the roads were really bad. Anyway, there is headstrong and then there is foolhardy. This driver sounds foolhardy.