Just About Ballistic Over A Safety Issue

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Stevo Reno's Comment
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Chief, I did that on my trainers old 2016 FL, the lights were going nuts, it would derate at times etc. He was rattled and dealt with dispatch awhile then we parked and slept. So being who I am I played around with the steering wheel buttons to find how to bring out the codes. Then looked up said codes for the cause(s) were all related to failing/failed DEF sensors.

Next day we get to the OKC yard shop. I gave my trainer my diagnosis to give the mechanics to save em time. Of course, NOT knowing me or my background, the shop guys STILL, wasted 3+ hours doing what I'd already done for them! HAHA, so eventually, after another 3+ hours, they replaced the sensors, and we were on our way by 9 pm. Trainer was fast asleep in the lounge, so I went n got the truck, hooked us back up to our load, and went and woke him to tell him we're good to roll now. Dunno why he was a bit shocked I got things ready lol. Told him "well, you were sleeping so good I didn't wanna wake you until we were good to go"

Happened again once I was teaming headed to WA state. Plugged fuel filters, talked to maintenance, was told to detour to Gardner's Salem, OR. 600 miles away, yard shop. Got filters changed, were totally plugged up. Found out CRST doe NOT replace fuel filters every 50k pm. Which is stupid as hell, every PM I ever did, we changed, ALL the filters, so less chance of a failure duhhhh......All to save a couple bucks on filters smh.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Davy A.'s Comment
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A lot of us were having issues with a person on our breakdown phone lines, she would tell us to drive when the vehicle wasn't up to it, etc. At one point, I had a bad def sensor and had 20 minutes before derate. I ignored her advice to drive to the yard (150 miles on two lane roads) and just have it towed when it stops running and backtracked to a loves. Where they regened it and bought me a day to get tge load delivered and then to our shop.

When I informed my DM of the conversation, he forwarded it on to safety. Several other drivers had messages that were similar. Safety either removed her or had her go to training.

Point I'm getting at, is that if individuals in breakdown (road service) are giving you unsafe direction, forward those messages on through proper channels so that Safety can examine it. If you don't communicate issues with your office, they won't know that it needs addressing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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On a car, I could do that all day long. On this thing? No clue, and haven't gone down the rabbit hole to try and figure out how. Do you have a good resource for the info, so I don't have to halfway watch 5 different people's badly recorded YouTube videos to only get half the answer? I know the 19 has three different check engine lights, the solid amber, the amber with ENG in it, and the RED with STOP in it. When my Knox sensor issue kept popping up, that RA person said to roll with it, unless it shows the next one, or derates, or I have a noticable decrease in power.

Do you know how to check which codes are triggered by the check engine light being on?

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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It most def did not fall on deaf ears. I have spoken with the FM that was covering, and my FM about it, and I believe they have already handled it, as my RA contact has changed in the app.

A lot of us were having issues with a person on our breakdown phone lines, she would tell us to drive when the vehicle wasn't up to it, etc. At one point, I had a bad def sensor and had 20 minutes before derate. I ignored her advice to drive to the yard (150 miles on two lane roads) and just have it towed when it stops running and backtracked to a loves. Where they regened it and bought me a day to get tge load delivered and then to our shop.

When I informed my DM of the conversation, he forwarded it on to safety. Several other drivers had messages that were similar. Safety either removed her or had her go to training.

Point I'm getting at, is that if individuals in breakdown (road service) are giving you unsafe direction, forward those messages on through proper channels so that Safety can examine it. If you don't communicate issues with your office, they won't know that it needs addressing

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Chief Brody's Comment
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Below is a screenshot that I took from the web. I don't have the Freightliner anymore I have an International.

Essentially, you just use the steering wheel arrow buttons to navigate to that wrench and then use the down arrow to go to the line that shows the active codes. Then hit okay and it'll show you the active codes are for that subcategory.

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NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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I fiddled with it last night, because I had remembered seeing the screens, and ran every diagnostic category there was, to "No faults found" with the CEL glowing amber and mocking me. This morning, turn the truck on, and the dang light is gone! 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ Thank you for the info though, it is greatly appreciated.

Below is a screenshot that I took from the web. I don't have the Freightliner anymore I have an International.

Essentially, you just use the steering wheel arrow buttons to navigate to that wrench and then use the down arrow to go to the line that shows the active codes. Then hit okay and it'll show you the active codes are for that subcategory.

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OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PackRat's Comment
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That's what I wrote about the "Electrical Gremlins" and nothing to worry about.

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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I think it's time to take a vacation! Apparently my brain is a bit addled in my rapidly advancing age!

That's what I wrote about the "Electrical Gremlins" and nothing to worry about.

PackRat's Comment
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I think it's time to take a vacation! Apparently my brain is a bit addled in my rapidly advancing age!

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That's what I wrote about the "Electrical Gremlins" and nothing to worry about.

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Bless your heart!

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I just experienced the same sort of thing today. Picking up a loaded trailer out of Streetsboro, OH going to Westfield, MA. Did my pre-trip and found a flat tire on a trailer tire.

(Pics included for reference.)

So, I completed pre-trip and called my terminal shop to notify that I have a trailer that needs servicing. When I mention that its a flat tire, the tech tells me that I can drive it to a TA just over the OH border. Two problems there:

1) As you can see in the pics, the tire is nearly ready to come off the rim. I have limped my way to a shop when it's a few exits and it's an inner tire. Outer tire with the beads broken, I am not moving this trailer.

2) Where the tech is talking about taking the trailer for service is adding miles to the route. Sure, I would be paid for the detour, but that shouldn't be the default action.

The terminal operations manager just happens to be working this weekend. I get a call from him asking me to send him pics of the tire after I told one of the weekend dispatch staff to take me off the load. I made the request after waiting 2 hours and not hearing anything from the shop. They had no status update to offer me, so connecting the dots, I knew this meant not to expect anything before the end of the shift.

Anyway, just another example of a tech wanting a driver to just drive when it's not the tech's butt on the line.

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Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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