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Todd T.'s Comment
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Ok this may seem a silly question to be asking but I have seen/heard some horror stories regarding it. So I would like your experienced opnions on it.

I work for Schneider.

Should I give a 2-week notice or just hand them the keys?

The stories I have heard generally revolve around the company retaliating against you for quitting with a 2-week notice. Generally, this feels weird to me because you are giving the company the courtesy of a heads up instead of surprising them.

Other info -

I dont owe them time as I paid for my own CDL.

Reason for leaving if you care -

I don't enjoy the OTR portion of trucking, but I do like driving a truck( the technical side of it; backing, driving in general, talking with customers)

I am going to school.

Schneider doesnt let me take my dog.

Pay is low in comparison to other starter companies, doesnt progress much over time, and I cannot apply to higher paying dedicated lanes due to where I live in relation to my OC.

All that being said, Schneider is a great starter company. You can potentially get a higher paying lane if one opens up and you live within 50 miles of the OC that lane is out of. Example, my TE runs for the Albertsons account and with fuel bonus makes .67 cpm.

Wow ok, this is what happens when my mind goes wild.....Sorry lol

Note: Thank you to all the drivers that have assisted me on the road <3

Thanks, Todd

PS: Ill will probably be back to trucking after getting my schooling but it will be a side hustle ;)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Banks's Comment
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You should try to give 2 weeks notice. If you have no problem quitting abruptly, you should have no problem with them skipping those 2 weeks and asking you to turn your truck in and you want want to be able to return if you need to.

The grass may not be greener on the other side. You see it from other posts on this site, things aren't great. You may want to think long and hard about making this move in this economy. What good is a higher pay rate with no work?

Lastly, you keep referring to Schneider as a starter company but you never told us how much experience you have. Schneider has a bunch of accounts and options that may work for you. Communicate what you want and see if they're able to accommodate you.

Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Errol V.'s Comment
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Banks is right - the grass is just as green at any other company. The "market" for drivers is competitive whether the national freight "load" is high or low.

What is a "starter company"? Do you think any trucking company's goal is to produce experienced drivers for other competitors? Any company who is willing to train you is wanting you to stay with them and make your career there.

How did you end up at Schneider National in the first place? OK, so you discovered OTR isn't for you. maybe It is best to move on. But did you talk to anyone at Schneider to see if they have any local positions? Home every day, or home on weekends? I drove for Swift, and they have both of those types of assignments, not just OTR.

Have a You Are Here moment and look closely for options.

As for the two week notice, that is a good idea. No, Schneider dispatchers won't get back at you. They may give you shorter routes that end up finally near your main terminal. Whiny people who don't understand the trucking business will often post sad stories where they are not the problem.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Note: Thank you to all the drivers that have assisted me on the road <3

That raises two questions in my mind...

How many times were you feeling you needed help on the road?

And...

How many drivers did you help on the road?

Truck driving is mostly a solitary occupation. It takes creative individuals to pull it off. All rookies struggle at first. Part of progressing to a level of competence in trucking is learning to deal with the issues. Life on the road demands a certain level of independence.

It doesn't take a village to be a truck driver. It takes a lot of resolve, and provides a lot of self satisfaction. I'm sorry you missed out on some of that. I don't know what you were expecting, but you definitely were feeling disappointed to make such a comment.

Please don't try trucking as a "side hustle." It's not a good plan.

Show you are a respectable and appreciative employee. Give them notice. Let the chips fall where they may. If they tell you to go ahead and turn in your truck, you can't pretend that means they are SOBs.

You have no clue about what's going on in their world. They may have thirty new drivers waiting on an available truck. Do the right thing and you'll never be sorry for it. They are going to do what's best for their business. You need to do what's right as their employee.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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My personal opinion is, take home time, clean out your truck of everything that won't fit into a suitcase and carry on. Make sure you have enough cash or credit for a one way flight home. THEN put in 2 weeks notice. That way, no matter what happens, you won't be up a creek without a paddle.

BK's Comment
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You already got great advice in the previous posts, so I will chime in ad a former Schneider driver.

I did 2 tours of duty with Schneider. I was only able to get re-hired the second time because I left on good terms the first time. So, my thinking is that you don’t want to burn a bridge that you may need to cross again, even if that seems unlikely. Talk to your DBL, or whatever they are currently called, and ask if they want two week notice or not. It sounds like you could go either way, so let them decide and your record will show that you went away on a positive note. They will not penalize you either way because, frankly, you are just a number to them and what you are planning to do happens within the company multiple times every day. It’s just routine for them. This is not a criticism of Schneider, but with about 15,000 drivers they don’t get personal with individual drivers.

And yes, if you start out with Schneider and you don’t like it, there are jobs that you would find better suited to you. This was the case with me. I received really great training from them but their overall system was not something I liked, so I chose another company that suits me much better.

Leave Schneider on the best terms possible. In the future, you may need a reference from them for another job and you want them to say positive things about you.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Pianoman's Comment
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BK said:

Talk to your DBL, or whatever they are currently called, and ask if they want two week notice or not.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Unless you work on a small fleet two weeks notice is typically unnecessary in trucking. I always ask them if they want two weeks or not. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t care. As long as you are rehireable that’s all that matters ultimately

Klutch's Comment
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I got my CDL through Schneider. When I left I discussed it with my DBL and we worked everything out. They worked me back to the Carlise terminal , asked me to cover a local account over the weekend and then helped organize my transportation home (on my dime but with their discount). It was less than two weeks but the important thing is leaving in good terms.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Todd T.'s Comment
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The grass may not be greener on the other side. You see it from other posts on this site, things aren't great. You may want to think long and hard about making this move in this economy. What good is a higher pay rate with no work?

Lastly, you keep referring to Schneider as a starter company but you never told us how much experience you have. Schneider has a bunch of accounts and options that may work for you. Communicate what you want and see if they're able to accommodate you.

Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for.

The grass may not be greener on the other side. You see it from other posts on this site, things aren't great. You may want to think long and hard about making this move in this economy. What good is a higher pay rate with no work?

I am not switch companies. As I stated I am going to a school.

Lastly, you keep referring to Schneider as a starter company but you never told us how much experience you have. Schneider has a bunch of accounts and options that may work for you. Communicate what you want and see if they're able to accommodate you.

I have 4 months experience. Other accounts at Schneider generally require 3+ months. I was applying to them before and after I had the "required" experience and no, as i might have obscurely stated, they dont have other accounts for me because I live outside a 50 mile radius of the OC. And if someone says that I should move closer to the OC no i shouldnt. I am basically living rent free and am not moving to a city where rent or mortgage would be a 1/3-1/2 of what my current pay at schneider is and what it would be based on pay information given.

Todd T.'s Comment
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Note: Thank you to all the drivers that have assisted me on the road <3

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That raises two questions in my mind...

How many times were you feeling you needed help on the road?

And...

How many drivers did you help on the road?

Truck driving is mostly a solitary occupation. It takes creative individuals to pull it off. All rookies struggle at first. Part of progressing to a level of competence in trucking is learning to deal with the issues. Life on the road demands a certain level of independence.

It doesn't take a village to be a truck driver. It takes a lot of resolve, and provides a lot of self satisfaction. I'm sorry you missed out on some of that. I don't know what you were expecting, but you definitely were feeling disappointed to make such a comment.

Please don't try trucking as a "side hustle." It's not a good plan.

Show you are a respectable and appreciative employee. Give them notice. Let the chips fall where they may. If they tell you to go ahead and turn in your truck, you can't pretend that means they are SOBs.

You have no clue about what's going on in their world. They may have thirty new drivers waiting on an available truck. Do the right thing and you'll never be sorry for it. They are going to do what's best for their business. You need to do what's right as their employee.

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The help i was referring to was generally within the first month or during a blind side back. Anytime someone ask me for help I give it UNLESS i have previous arrangements with family and that help is not life threatening, or is a druggy asking for money.

Trucking is not remotely hard. I really enjoy the technical side of it ( backing, figuring out turns in some situations) I am leaving because its boring, Van is boring, and I dont see myself being a company "slave" for the rest of my life. ( using "slave" even though it is technically improper, but i couldnt remember the term for **** pay and high hours)

Thank you for your reply

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

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