2 Moving Violation In A Commercial Vehicle 1 In My Personal Vehicle

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Jose G.'s Comment
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The month of August for me wasn't a good month for me because I had so many things going on at home and ended up getting two moving violations in my commercial vehicle and one of my personal vehicle. I got all these within the same month, for my personal vehicle I took driving school to remove the point from my record. Later on I read somewhere that California does not remove points from your driving record. Rather they mask points from the insurance. So now I'm wondering if I want move to a different company will it show that I have three moving violations or just two?

Thank you all in advance.

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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If I recall correctly, when you are a CDL holder, it doesn't matter if you were in a CMV or personal vehicle, a point is a point is a point. With anti masking laws, it's entirely possible that (and most likely) that all points are on you.

In this freight market and current hiring market, it is going to be really difficult for a company to say yes to you, when they could hire someone with zero blemishes.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Jose G.'s Comment
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I forgot to mention that I am a California resident. I was told my the CHP officer and later research that because I was in my personal vehicle I am able to go to driving school preventing the point to affect my insurance rates and license from being suspended. But I cannot find any information about if even though I took said action if my employer could see it anyway. This is the part that I am wondering about.

If I recall correctly, when you are a CDL holder, it doesn't matter if you were in a CMV or personal vehicle, a point is a point is a point. With anti masking laws, it's entirely possible that (and most likely) that all points are on you.

In this freight market and current hiring market, it is going to be really difficult for a company to say yes to you, when they could hire someone with zero blemishes.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Old School's Comment
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You can get online and have a copy of your driving record sent to yourself. I'm pretty sure you will find it showing 3 moving violations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Old School's Comment
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Fortunately, I'm not familiar with California's state government websites. In my state you can pay a small fee and print out your driving record. That's what I would do if I was anxious about what was on it.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Calif is the same, you create an account, and can get your record, and pay the fee for a copy to download. I go into the office and get one printed out

PJ's Comment
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I would check with DMV regarding driving school. I was a licensed driving school instructor in Ca for 12 years. In 2010 or 2011 they changed the rules and banned CDL holders from taking the course.

They may have changed it back so check with DMV or call a certified driving school.

It was a shame when they did that change. 50 percent of my students were cdl holders. The old rule was cdl holders issued citations in a non commercial vehicle could attend 1 time every 3 years. Citations in a commercial vehicle were not eligible.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

BK's Comment
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Not sure if I’m reading between the lines or not, but your concern and question might be a moot point.

If you apply for another job and the application asks for your accident/citation record, you need to answer truthfully regardless of what the state record shows.

You can apply for all the jobs you want to. The worst they can do is say no. But hang on to your current job because those citations might render you un- hire-able right now.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Davy A.'s Comment
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With the freight market the way it is right now, I'd highly recommend hanging on to your current job. Carriers are being very picky about who they hire. Having tickets on your record can be difficult in a normal market, but in the current environment, which is flooded with drivers, almost impossible to get hired with.

Although costly, it's always worth it to get an attorney for tickets, they can get even the citation removed from the mvr at times.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Jose G.'s Comment
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This is a great idea. I'm going to do that. Thank you.

Fortunately, I'm not familiar with California's state government websites. In my state you can pay a small fee and print out your driving record. That's what I would do if I was anxious about what was on it.

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