Cameras Inside Facing Road And Cameras On Mirrors Facing Back Side Of Truck.

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Rob T.'s Comment
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I would not tamper with the equipment, however. Some companies roll their eyes at it while others will outright fire you for it.

I know a guy who was fired from Sysco for taking the camera down. He claims it fell and was swinging into the windshield so he unhooked it to prevent damage. Over 15 years with the company and was terminated. Zero tolerance. He was unhireable at most companies as well until he had 6 months to a year elsewhere due to his termination being considered breaking company policy and tampering with safety equipment.

Bill M.'s Comment
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That will probably get you fired!

I'm a company driver. They just installed cameras on mirrors facing back with wide angle lenses. Now they can see in cab also which they said they wouldn't do. Is it illegal to put a hand clamp with some tape to window side of camera so they can't see in cab?

Bill M.'s Comment
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I'm with you, Drew; they can look at whatever they want to look at when I'm on their time using their equipment. I have nothing to hide, and I, too, had the camera save me when A car intentionally backed into me at a red light.

Once I'm off of the clock, I pull the curtains.

So unpopular opinion here...

But I learned to like having cameras. I don't have anything to hide from my employers, so they can watch me pick my nose and scratch my balls all day if that is what they get off on.

Partial joking aside, cameras saved my ass from liability TWICE when I worked for AAA. No one spends time watching trucker TV. Safefy usually has bigger fish to fry. That said, as others have mentioned, during downtime, close the curtains. Some trucks have a middle visor that pulls down over the camera as well.

I would not tamper with the equipment, however. Some companies roll their eyes at it while others will outright fire you for it.


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Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Bill M.'s Comment
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It does just that. Also, every month, the driver is given a rated score based on driving habits. The insurance companies use this score to determine the overall insurability of the driver, rates are adjusted accordingly.

I wonder how long before most companies install driver facing cameras. As with forward facing cameras, I bet it helps with their overall insurance rates. If they all do it nobody except O/Os will be able to get away from them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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I'm with Bill and Drew. No big deal if they see me doing my job. My hiney was covered when I had a sudden stop. The camera showed I did look both ways before a car cut in front of me anyway. So Phil, this isn't such an unpopular opinion at all.

Drew, light up another Robusto for me.

Davy A.'s Comment
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Every time a camera post comes up, there are two polarized opinions. Both haver merit.

The bigger picture is that we work for corporations. And those corporations succeed by reducing costs and gaining profits only. There's no emotion, it's just the insidious single purpose of extracting even a tenth of a cent out of equipment, employees and costs.

With the camera, Knights primary consideration is to reduce paying out non attached overhead....meaning driver bonuses among reducing insurance premiums....even though they're self insured. Mening the company bonds its own insurance payouts.

As the market conditions deteriorated, they cut allowable infractions points from 25 to 15. The sole reason in doing this is to reduce payments of bonuses. It has nothing to do with safety at all. The marketplace crashing didn't suddenly make us all into worse drivers. 5000 drivers times 350.00 is a savings of 1.75 million dollars per month.

Aside from it being ethically questionable behavior, the cameras are about reducing cost. Period. If they really cared about driver safety, there are many other things they could and would focus on.

I'm not opposed to a corporation reducing costs, but if it's in conflict with my personal goal of generating as much money from the work I do for them, there is an issue.


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Stevo Reno's Comment
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I never had the camera problem, both at CRST, all 4 FL's I drove,driver camera was covered by black stickers (they did have hidden mic's)and last @ Legends, they said they wouldn't use them.

But my co-driver that went to Legends, before me, drove local and he got caught peeing in a bottle in his day cab , and got fired LOL.....

I told him "dufus, you're local, you can stop anytime in your day cab duhhhh" I forget who he went to drive for after.


Day Cab:

A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.

Big Scott's Comment
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When I was with CFI, they installed cameras but did not activate the driver facing ones and we were allowed to cover them.

With the company I'm with now we have cameras facing front, sides and rear, not inward. Since our tractor was in the shop the forward and rear ones aren't working. When they work it looks like this.


Yes we have a display in the cab, so we can see what they see.

DeadEyeCharlie's Comment
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On of the reasons for the driver facing camera is to determine if the driver was distracted at the time of the incident. Texting and driving, smoking etc. I have seen many truckers with their phones in their hands. Not cool. At least be smart enough to mount the phones and use bluetooth headset at the minimum. At my company, phones are off or set to Do Not Disturb. No talking on the phones while in motion. Can use them to stream music, but that needs to be adjusted prior to rolling. So, I can see the reason behind driver facing cameras, but like stated above, most systems will save a small amount prior to incident. Otherwise, nothing to worry about. But, always follow the company policy. Jobs may be plenty, but that doesn't mean you won't be waiting to be hired.

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