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Kevin R.'s Comment
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Hi. In Pennsylvania testing sites do not provide vehicles. I'd like to be able to pretrip and drive a private owners vehicle to get a feel for it then test in it. I live in Philadelphia. I'd be happy to work something out with an owner willing to help me.

Tractor Man's Comment
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I don't believe ANY State testing facility provides Trucks for testing. That is what Truck Driving Schools are in business for. I'll guarantee you you are on the wrong site if you are looking for someone to lend you their Truck. Find a local School, or look into Company Sponsored Training. Go to the Homepage on this site. You will find a plethora of information.

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Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Old School's Comment
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Kevin, are you trying to get your CDL on your own without going through a school or Company-Sponsored Training Program?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I don't believe ANY State testing facility provides Trucks for testing. That is what Truck Driving Schools are in business for. I'll guarantee you you are on the wrong site if you are looking for someone to lend you their Truck. Find a local School, or look into Company Sponsored Training. Go to the Homepage on this site. You will find a plethora of information.

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In Indiana, you can actually rent a truck at the testing facility. You make an appointment, book a section of time and one of the examiners will go out to the skills area and let you practice as well as practice your driving. Then you rent it again for your actual test, so that you're at least familiar with the vehicle.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Here in Florida, all testing is done at 3rd party facilities.

Think a Class A (with tractor & trailer) is $450 for test and rig at the County VoTech I did my school at.

That doesn't help for PA. I don't think ANY TESTING SITES (official DMV offices) "provide test vehicles" - even for automobile testing. Way too much liability exposure if you kill someone in a state-owned vehicle.

Rick

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

G-Town's Comment
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Here in Florida, all testing is done at 3rd party facilities.

Think a Class A (with tractor & trailer) is $450 for test and rig at the County VoTech I did my school at.

That doesn't help for PA. I don't think ANY TESTING SITES (official DMV offices) "provide test vehicles" - even for automobile testing. Way too much liability exposure if you kill someone in a state-owned vehicle.

Rick

Correct Rick. Not in PA.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Kevin R.'s Comment
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I have just finished a six moth training program but the school will not let us practice in or pretrip the truck before our test so I want to drive and inspect a truck before I take the test. It's crazy that they won't let us touch the test trucks.

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Here in Florida, all testing is done at 3rd party facilities.

Think a Class A (with tractor & trailer) is $450 for test and rig at the County VoTech I did my school at.

That doesn't help for PA. I don't think ANY TESTING SITES (official DMV offices) "provide test vehicles" - even for automobile testing. Way too much liability exposure if you kill someone in a state-owned vehicle.

Rick

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Correct Rick. Not in PA.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Terminal Rat ( aka...J's Comment
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That does sound a little odd. The school I attended had some real beaters we used for backing practice but you did all your on road training in the same trucks we tested in at the dmv.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Tractor Man's Comment
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have just finished a six moth training program but the school will not let us practice in or pretrip the truck before our test so I want to drive and inspect a truck before I take the test. It's crazy that they won't let us touch the test trucks.

What??? Isn't that the purpose of a Truck Driving School? I'm confused! What is the name of this School?

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Rick S.'s Comment
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have just finished a six moth training program but the school will not let us practice in or pretrip the truck before our test so I want to drive and inspect a truck before I take the test. It's crazy that they won't let us touch the test trucks.

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What??? Isn't that the purpose of a Truck Driving School? I'm confused! What is the name of this School?

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Yeah - that's what I was going to ask.

He has a thread on the Training Diaries (title "Confused") - where the school sounds a little "fishy" - and yes - there are 3rd party private schools that are still crappy (Metropolitan down here is one of them) that give minimal help and give you just (barely) enough to pass your written/skills tests.

But at least they do the testing.

Kevins school HAS A TESTING TRUCK - but he is concerned (in his other thread) about doing a one-shot test in his schools truck - because he is unfamiliar with it and the school apparently doesn't let them practice on that truck.

Typically - states have certified examiners that do the testing, that are NOT DMV Employees. Here in Fl - most of the 3rd party schools have their instructors certified as examiners (at least a couple) to do their skills tests, do the tests are done BY the school, on equipment you're at least somewhat familiar with. My old instructor is one of 1/2-dozen guys that train and certify the examiners.

In my school (County VoTech) - we did our yard work & pre-trip with single screw daycabs and 43' boxes - then they took the top 1/2 of the class out in double screw (tandem drives vs single) road trucks (some days, a few sleepers) for a few laps around the road course - and tested 1/2 the class, so they could "ride shotgun" for the other 1/2 of the class. Basically - 2 students per road truck - we did 1,000 road miles as part of a 320 hour certificate class.

I feel your pain Kevin (somewhat). When I did my road test (top 1/2 of the class) - they grabbed me and my buddy, told us to pre-trip a road truck and go test. I asked if I could take a couple of laps around the inside track to get a feel for a truck I had never driven before - I got "are you a driver or a wheel holder?" as a response. Failed on missed shifts, because the truck shifted way different from everything else I had driven on the yard. Plus - I had already been "floating my gears" on the crappy yard trucks - so my double-clutching skills weren't up to snuff to begin with. And I was floating on the road test out of habit, and get yelled at to double clutch (probably could have passed floating).

So I understand that Kevin is looking for someone with a truck in PA - to road test. But there's a few "issues" there. Finding a STRANGER that's going to let you drive HIS TRUCK. Still being in the position of going to road test in an UNFAMILIAR TRUCK.

Rick

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Double Clutch:

To engage and then disengage the clutch twice for every gear change.

When double clutching you will push in the clutch, take the gearshift out of gear, release the clutch, press the clutch in again, shift the gearshift into the next gear, then release the clutch.

This is done on standard transmissions which do not have synchronizers in them, like those found in almost all Class A trucks.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

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