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Sooooo today I had my first and hopefully my last HOS violation. I drove us from our last load receiver to the shipper of our new load, that took about 3 hours. Dropped the trailer, and waited in the staging area. I spent about 5 hours in the sleeper, then we were loaded and ready to go. I drove the rest of my 14 not needing to break. Now here is the issue. Trying to find a place to stop as I was running out of time I went over by 2 minutes.

How big of a deal is this?

Fir any Prime drivers that used to train, still train, or anything. I have been told when I upgrade they review my HOS and we don't know what will happen if I have a violation.

Any guidance here would be appreciated.

It's not a big deal. The problems arise for those who habitually disregard the rules.

An officer having a bad day could still cite you for it though. Don't worry about it, stuff happens. If you didn't already have a parking place planned you should start looking when your clock is down to an hour and a half.

You'll get better at this planning for parking thing as you get more familiar with the various parts of the country and what the parking situations are like in them.

My trainer taught me this rule when trip planning. Can drive 550 miles in 12 hrs, WHERE WILL I PARK FOR THE NIGHT. If we have to we reserve a spot. CFI will reimburse for that. Prime may too. Either way that guarantees you a spot. Where we parked last night all rhe spots were full, some people parked where the shouldn't, all the reserved spots were empty.

Swift will allow two HOS violations per month. I found that out after I was called in on violation #3 in one month. I think that's to allow for little ones like Eric's.

Sooooo today I had my first and hopefully my last HOS violation. I drove us from our last load receiver to the shipper of our new load, that took about 3 hours. Dropped the trailer, and waited in the staging area. I spent about 5 hours in the sleeper, then we were loaded and ready to go. I drove the rest of my 14 not needing to break. Now here is the issue. Trying to find a place to stop as I was running out of time I went over by 2 minutes.

How big of a deal is this?

Fir any Prime drivers that used to train, still train, or anything. I have been told when I upgrade they review my HOS and we don't know what will happen if I have a violation.

Any guidance here would be appreciated.

Logs reviews all upgrades and will sit down anyone who looks bad. It is not a reprimand. It is an informational one on one sit down. You aren't in trouble. Sometimes trainers give bad advice or do not explain things properly. Perhaps the student didn't understand and hearing it from logs can help.

We get assigned one point for every violation. So if you drive one hour over or ten minutes over it is one point. The points roll off every six month in a rolling period. So January points will fall off in July. After 20 points you get.pulled into the terminal. After 21 your FM gets reprimanded.

I asked what rookies have in their first six months... The answer was 5 to 10 and they expect you to have issues with time management. Anything under 5 miles they can remove.

For example, you run out of hours at Busch for what what supposed to be a drop and hook. They take five hours to load you. You drive 2.5 miles to the TA and park. Although you violated, call logs who can remove it.

No one is going to say "hey, you can't upgrade" or "you're fired". They might tell the trainer he can't train any longer until he can teach to drive legally.

Did you have time on the load? Was there parking at the shipper? If so, you would have been better doing 8 in the sleeper at the customer instead of 5, then driving out. Since you drove 3 hours to get to the shipper, you would have had 8 hours of drive time after the 8 sleeper.

No parking at the shipper , we should have time, but if we ran into any issues along the way that would have been lost.

It was my fault I just didn't plan well. Not to throw blame on my trainer, but I felt rushed as we left. We spent maybe 45 minutes to get all of our loaded paperwork and calls done. Including the tandems being slid and everything. So when I went to look at the route out of there and where to stay he made a comment of we need to go, every minute sitting here I am losing time. So I put down my phone and left. I had previously looked at the route out that we took. But I did not look far enough ahead to where I would park.

That's my bad.

No parking at the shipper , we should have time, but if we ran into any issues along the way that would have been lost.

It was my fault I just didn't plan well. Not to throw blame on my trainer, but I felt rushed as we left. We spent maybe 45 minutes to get all of our loaded paperwork and calls done. Including the tandems being slid and everything. So when I went to look at the route out of there and where to stay he made a comment of we need to go, every minute sitting here I am losing time. So I put down my phone and left. I had previously looked at the route out that we took. But I did not look far enough ahead to where I would park.

That's my bad.

Not only is that part of learning, but its no big deal. Its a good way to learn now to plan for parking. But as a trainer. Yes he probably should have asked you where you were going to park. Live and learn.

Now imagine a mentor who barely speaks English, who has a problem explaining stuff. I already mentioned this to my coordinator but its like, just deal with it anyhow. I do not know how much I will learn from him. Saw a message on qualcom yesterday about me being nearly in violation re off duty. When I asked to look at the messages he deleted them quick and told me you can only be on off duty a maximum of 2 hrs at a time, true? Not long after I was driving and we entered a weigh station in FL. Guess what, got a citation coz the tandem placing was wrong for the state of FL. Was told it will not impact my DL but I might get points from the company. Explained to my coordinator and he said he will fight off the point for me. Was very frustrated!!

No parking at the shipper , we should have time, but if we ran into any issues along the way that would have been lost.

It was my fault I just didn't plan well. Not to throw blame on my trainer, but I felt rushed as we left. We spent maybe 45 minutes to get all of our loaded paperwork and calls done. Including the tandems being slid and everything. So when I went to look at the route out of there and where to stay he made a comment of we need to go, every minute sitting here I am losing time. So I put down my phone and left. I had previously looked at the route out that we took. But I did not look far enough ahead to where I would park.

That's my bad.

Not only is that part of learning, but its no big deal. Its a good way to learn now to plan for parking. But as a trainer. Yes he probably should have asked you where you were going to park. Live and learn.

Rainy, you would have loved it the other day. We are looking up a washout in Alabama. The one we picked had their pipes backed up. The lady gave me the card fir another of their stops that was on our way, but off of the road we are on a bit. So we decided to hit one on the route we weee going.

I get the directions and in the message it says use this address and gives us an address to use fir the gps. When I go to the nav I go to put the address in and he tells me no, look it up by the code. Well the nav does not find it. Then he makes another of those comments about wasting time. So I look at it on the map and figure I will look fir it when I get to the city.

Well I passed it, he saw it. Did not say a word. I found another washout along the way, not in the network so I paid out if pocket. Then I asked him if he saw it he said yes. However as I rolled passed it he did not say a word. He reimbursed me, but I learned this is how he teaches. Let me fail and just kept pointing it out. No matter that I found a way to fix the situation.

Ohhh yea and his reasoning to me on why I failed was because I didn't put the address in which I tried to do in the first place and he told me not to. I'm not a mind reader I didn't know he meant for me to do it once the code look up failed.