What Is The Point Of A DSE??

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Errol V.'s Comment
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I think I'll have to get some popcorn ready.

Check rides are an important part of getting to know the drivers any company hires. It's not a "tradition", Dave, it's just something you do.

I know if you said these things to a Roehl safety officer, they just might say that with an attitude like that, you don't really have to do the check ride. Because you don't work here!

Cwc's Comment
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20 whole minutes? 2/3 of the mandatory DOT rest stop? WOW!!! I was wondering because I was never required to do this when I was at Roehl. Is it only for the newest drivers, prior to heading out solo?

Haven't the slightest and as I said.. Just a guess. Again my guess is it's the same as a driving test you take whenever you start at a company. To check to see that you can drive and not tear up equipment... Maybe they should check for a congenial attitude also😆

The longer I drive truck the more I relax about things in life. Since I've came to the company I'm at I've come to the conclusion that they are replenishing the older and retired or health problematic people with a younger crew. I've somehow made the "A" list in my 6 months.

If it's petty don't sweat it... And if it's sweaty don't pet it.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

PackRat's Comment
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If it's petty don't sweat it... And if it's sweaty don't pet it.

That's a good one!

Army 's Comment
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David G.'s Comment
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Oh lord, I hate text format, always comes off wrong or negative. I'm not mad, nor do I have a 'tude. I'm just asking a question. I've asked an old and new instructor about it and had a normal conversation where nobody got upset. We then went on to laugh about trucker stories.

Questions are healthy and they want you asking them.

"Just something you do" is an answer I don't love, lol. Just like as a boy, "Because I said so" wasnt a great answer either, it's just a lazy answer because they don't want to go through it with you.

I just want people to talk to me, have an open conversation. Not swat a concern to the side. If it's trivial, explain to me why it is.

As I've said, I'm good. My question was answered. Now I can move on to other concerns, lol

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Questions are healthy and they want you asking them.

To a point. Like anything, you can get carried away with it. You can also ask the wrong questions which will make you look bad or cause concerns with the people training you.

In this case you're questioning why you, as a brand new student driver, should be tested again. Is that a question you should be asking? Is that going to somehow be helpful to you as you try to learn how to drive a rig? Is it going to help you develop a better relationship with the people training you? Is it going to change the way they do things?

It's not necessarily a "healthy" question or something you should be concerning yourself with. You're new and you're repeatedly being tested. That should make perfect sense.

I just want people to talk to me, have an open conversation. Not swat a concern to the side. If it's trivial, explain to me why it is.

It was explained to you why it's a trivial question in the first two responses you were given. You should re-read those. After that it was you who kept on about it so people kept on responding to you.

As you can see, asking that question did not sit well with experienced drivers, did it? It shouldn't be difficult to understand why. It sounds like you're saying, "I've already proven myself. Why should I have to do it again?"

The answer to that was given - you have a very, very long way to go before you've come anywhere near proving yourself so expect to be monitored very closely for quite a long time yet.

So even though in your mind you weren't asking that question with any sort of attitude, the nature of the question implies that you have the wrong attitude. So be careful what you say to your trainers. You can say anything you like to us, but just understand that we're going to tell it to you straight. In this case it just doesn't sound good for a student to be questioning why they're being tested.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Turtle's Comment
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Seems a bit offensive, doesn't it?
I might have to clock someone in the throat!
I mean, was all that time all for not?
Doesn't sound to me that they even care about that 19 days whatsoever.

Nah, you didn't have a 'tude. What would make us think that?

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Nah, you didn't have a 'tude. What would make us think that?

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Exactly!!!

David gets a "Come on, man!" for this conversation and for his attitude. Now go to your room and think about what you've done.

What we tell ourselves about ourselves is not often what others would tell us about ourselves.

David G.'s Comment
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Guys, guys, I wrote that at like 3am amidst having a panic attack. I have an anxiety issue. I take pills every single day for it, but they don't always work out.

I was scared because it's a learned behavior. Between jobs that treated me like a number, to being in an incredibly abusive relationship that broke me in impossible ways. I was homeless, I bounced from house to house, burning out resources because I wanted to be there for my significant other. They kept kicking her out and told me I could stay. I didn't, I loved her, so with a blind eye, I followed. She fed off of that energy and attention until I was worn out, in such case she started trying to beat it out of me, like I was an empty ketchup bottle filled with fragments of affection.

From there, I was forced to quit a job along with everybody statewide, had my first panic attack, not knowing what it was, while working, got unofficially fired for that, and joined a job that I'm still waiting on a paycheck for, as is the rest of the company.

Even my wife and friend thinks luck isn't on my side. They are always hoping things turn around, but I've promised myself that I won't let people treat me like that again, or anyone else if I can help it. I'm cautious with everything I do and with everybody I meet.

99% of the time, it's fine because I get where they're coming from.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Cwc's Comment
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Guys, guys, I wrote that at like 3am amidst having a panic attack. I have an anxiety issue. I take pills every single day for it, but they don't always work out.

I was scared because it's a learned behavior. Between jobs that treated me like a number, to being in an incredibly abusive relationship that broke me in impossible ways. I was homeless, I bounced from house to house, burning out resources because I wanted to be there for my significant other. They kept kicking her out and told me I could stay. I didn't, I loved her, so with a blind eye, I followed. She fed off of that energy and attention until I was worn out, in such case she started trying to beat it out of me, like I was an empty ketchup bottle filled with fragments of affection.

From there, I was forced to quit a job along with everybody statewide, had my first panic attack, not knowing what it was, while working, got unofficially fired for that, and joined a job that I'm still waiting on a paycheck for, as is the rest of the company.

Even my wife and friend thinks luck isn't on my side. They are always hoping things turn around, but I've promised myself that I won't let people treat me like that again, or anyone else if I can help it. I'm cautious with everything I do and with everybody I meet.

99% of the time, it's fine because I get where they're coming from.

Possibly an overshare. But without doubt one of the most stressful jobs you could've enlisted into. I guess I would want to know what they were looking for on a test after training too.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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