Prime New Driver Pay

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Dan S.'s Comment
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Its all together two different things to pose as one thing and in truth be another.

The system that MAY have ONCE been in place even a year or more, that was once effective has morphed into one of,

Get em' in, process them, full them out, get em' permitted, get em licensed, get em' in a truck with trainers that's more interested in lining their pockets, or at least making their lease payments.

Has nothing to do with my ability to adapt, nor ability to train

Is my statement indicative of ant all trainers?

NO. I've a sampling population of

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But there's no doubt in my mind that 95% of what I need to know to be successful as a trucker will be gleaned from OJT after I go solo AND from places such as TT and experienced drivers such as yourself and others of this esteemed body of knowledge and experience

Splitter's Comment
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But there's no doubt in my mind that 95% of what I need to know to be successful as a trucker will be gleaned from OJT after I go solo AND from places such as TT and experienced drivers such as yourself and others of this esteemed body of knowledge and experience

This piece of insight into your frame of mind is very frightening! The level of learning from any trainer is directly proportional to your level engagement. If you just sit back & expect to be told what to do then you’ll fulfill your own expectations. If you’re fully engaged & question things, show initiative & take responsibility for your actions? Then you’ll learn 99% of what you’ll need out here to be successful.

Are there bad trainers? No question! I was very fortunate to get a trainer that set me up to succeed by making me aware of many of their mistakes as rookie. By not getting out & guiding me as I backed at receivers. By sending me in to the shipping & receiving offices to interact with these people & the BOL process. By making sure I wrote down my pretrip before putting the truck in drive, every single time. I could go on & on.

That statement I quoted from you? Shows a person who thinks they knows it all. Obviously you’re articulate & intelligent but rather than using it to fill your ego? Humility will take you much further than hubris.

Old School's Comment
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Get em' in, process them, full them out, get em' permitted, get em licensed, get em' in a truck with trainers that's more interested in lining their pockets, or at least making their lease payments.

That's not some new metamorphosis, we've been talking about this for years. We've also been helping newcomers deal with it so they can move on to a successful career.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rainy D.'s Comment
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"After you finish your training, and go in to upgrade, they'll more than likely give you a LW. You can request a condo, but if they don't have one available, and you're adamant about getting a condo, you'll have to pay for your own hotel while you wait."

So if you've an extra $1,000 or more you've a choice, otherwise,...........

BS. i upgraded and went right into a condo and was told i would have to pay the hotel bill i waited ONE night and was not charged the hotel. when i got my second truck, i was told the same and again, i was not charged the one night. i did not become a trainer until after i got my second truck.

YES teams and trainers get trucks first, but going from TnT to solo can take days to complete the safety class, computer training and other classes.

Prime can easily commute drivers from MO to PA or UT to get trucks. Lease ops can choose their trucks and can be very selective. if you were paying $1000 a week for the truck, you would be too. Splitter upgraded Memorial Day week, was 85 on the list on Monday and still got a truck a few days later... after completing all.of.the classes.

As far as the night students on the pad... that was started years ago when students who had already had driving experience needed accelerated refreshers, married couples who wanted to train together, and others who were holding out for trainers. yes, if someone requests a female non smoking catholic trainer or something to that effect, they may be in the local pad until TnT when such a trainer can be provided. Others in those classes might have gone on the road but needed additional.backing practice. or for whatever other reason and already gone out with trainers and either chose to come off the truck, or the trainer requested them to be removed from the truck. the class itself is evidence that prime does not give up on people.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Dan, do yourself a favor. Get off the forum, and go outside and do something. Sittiing on the forums and complaining is not helping your situation, it is just keeping it at the front of your mind and making it worse. You have done hurry up and wait for 20 years, this is nothing new

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Dan what really happened that makes you sound so venomous? You said in one post you had an excellent trainer. If you want to switch trainers, then talk to the training department and change.

As someone who was trained by a lease op, i understand the idea of feeling used for your miles. the truth of the matter is, you will do most of your learning once solo. and you will gain so.much freedom. but there will be no one to blame then. if you then say "my trainer sucked" it is your fault for not speaking up and changing trainers NOW.

training is hard. no one said it wasnt but its only a few months. hang in there.

Dan S.'s Comment
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Dan, do yourself a favor. Get off the forum, and go outside and do something. Sittiing on the forums and complaining is not helping your situation, it is just keeping it at the front of your mind and making it worse. You have done hurry up and wait for 20 years, this is nothing new

I'm going to do that very thing

Rob T.'s Comment
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Dan, do yourself a favor. Get off the forum, and go outside and do something. Sittiing on the forums and complaining is not helping your situation, it is just keeping it at the front of your mind and making it worse. You have done hurry up and wait for 20 years, this is nothing new

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I'm going to do that very thing

thank-you-2.gif You went from the past couple weeks talking about how great Prime is to criticizing everything they do. You've been given the advice from experienced drivers who drive for prime on how to remedy your dilemma and you choose to ignore it. I dont know what else anybody can do for you.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Pupil2Prodigy's Comment
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you get an additional 5cpm in the LW if you run northeast to northeast areas. all of this is on the website

Just to confirm, NE to NE only. Doesn't apply to outgoing NE loads? Living in MA wouldn't necessarily mean I'd earn it right? Just want to make sure I understand correctly

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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you get an additional 5cpm in the LW if you run northeast to northeast areas. all of this is on the website

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Just to confirm, NE to NE only. Doesn't apply to outgoing NE loads? Living in MA wouldn't necessarily mean I'd earn it right? Just want to make sure I understand correctly

Northeast to Northeast... so ME to NY yes, GA to MA no. im usually kept.in the NE before home time, so yeah, i could get the extra cpm if i had a lightweight. For example... i did Boston to VT to hazelton PA, to Albany to.Johnstown NY, back to VT then back to PA. then to buffalo and back to jersey... 3000 mile week all NE miles. we do have a NE regional , but i dont recommend it. tight roads, tight backing, buildings made a hundred years ago for horse carriages.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

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