Prime Training/company Pay Vs Veriha Training/company Pay?

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Old School's Comment
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Luke, do you see what your research has done for you? It has turned you into the very type person we consistently see crash and burn when trying to make a go of this career. You're already acting like you're somebody who can be a smartass with people who've obviously taken their time to help you, people who know the things you claim you want to know. It's strange how a person like yourself will come in here, ask us for some help on something, and then get offended because we didn't answer your specific questions the way you wanted.

The things you asked about Veriha indicated you didn't even understand your own research. Its easy for us to recognize this kind of thing because we deal with it daily. You can get beligerant and act like we're all a bunch of self righteous truckers all you want, but it ought to be obvious that you won't learn anything that way. Your research is forcing you to ask questions, and now you're cutting yourself off from reliable information with your terrible attitude.

Earlier I said this to you...

We don't allow a bunch of knuckleheads to mouth off with their nonsense.

There's a reason for that. We actually make it our mission to help people learn how to make it out here. We don't trick people or coddle them. We shoot straight and we have a long list of people who've gone onto successful careers by taking our advice. Knuckleheads make themselves painfully obvious, and today you have done an excellent job of that.

Rainy D.'s Comment
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Luke, if it seems like you arent getting the right answers... its because no one can tell you the exact numbers you want. Every single persons training is different, even at the same company. Splitters training was from Mar 1 to May 28. so 3.mos. and about a month before he had started getting paid. My training was from Sept 21st to Feb 14th. so almost 5.months. that is a big difference but had to do with me failing the test, the trainer taking 3 weeks off for the holidays and truck repairs.

So i got.to Prime 9/21 and got.my first pay 11/5. Another of our members did one week orientation, one week out over the road and then passed his CDL.on the first try. So his first check was like his 3rd week out.

This is why we keep.saying to be prepared. we cant answer exact numbers.

Also, keep in mind anything on your part will delay it. Struggling with backing, having an accident, even being sick....it could delay you.

good.luck

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Well, I'm not a driver yet, and I know nothing other than what I have read about either company. Here is an outsider's take. I am simply a visitor here just like you. But I have been around the block a few times, and I can read people pretty well, and I can spot BS in ads pretty well.

All of us new people do all this research, trying to find the company we want to work for, which is fine as far as HOPES go. But in the end, what is really going to matter is which company will actually HIRE us.

From what I have read about Veriha, you would be lucky to have them accept you, and I wish they were hiring from my area, because they would definitely be high on my list. As far as their training being short, (A) I see that as a positive if you have money problems, and (B) I am sure they aren't going to turn you loose in their nice new truck if you aren't ready. That wouldn't be a very good business decision, and I don't think they reached their level of success by being stupid.

Prime also looks like a very good company. Their training seems to be very good, and again, they didn't get to be their size by being stupid.

In fact, probably ANY of the companies willing to pay for your training would be fine, the only thing that should be a question is, are they hiring in my area, what is their home time like, and am I willing to haul whatever freight they haul. Maybe benefits, though I bet they are all similar. In fact, I bet they are all similar as far as pay, etc. One may pay $.05 more per mile, but they may also have double the amount of miles available to drive. I researched my competitor's pay plans when I was a manager, and found that in the end, all were almost identical, even though some sounded really good on paper. But after comparing everything involved, they worked out to within a few dollars of all the rest.

If money is an issue, and you have no way to raise money to help you through, I would think the best thing to do is stop researching and apply to every company that may work and get on the road and earning money as soon as possible. Either that, or get a second job and save that income, or get ahead on your bills with it, and then get started. But all the picking and choosing means nothing if you are a new guy looking for training, and not an experienced driver. because in the end, we bring nothing to the table except a willingness and desire to work and earn money for ourselves and the company, and there is no way to prove that beforehand, other than past performance.

As far as bad reviews, people that are ticked off are FAR more likely to leave a review than people that are happy, I have seen a few bad reviews on companies I have seen nothing but good reports on. I saw a few on Facebook on their company pages, and a couple of the companies actually called the person out, saying they were fired for performance issues, etc. and I say good for them. I saw one guy who the company said had never been an employee leave a bad review.

I worked for car dealerships for years, and the manufacturers started tying monetary decisions to customer satisfaction surveys. The only way to get people to return a survey if they were happy was to give them something for doing so, like a free oil change, etc. People simply won't take the time. Yet time and again, I saw people sending in bad surveys because they felt they didn't get enough for their trade, or the car was too expensive, though no one forced them to accept their deal. Or because the vehicle had issues, and even though the dealer just sells it, they got the bad review.

The internet simply makes it easier for people to try to ruin a company's reputation. Just look at the trolls on Facebook and Twitter for proof. There are people who do this stuff for fun.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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I have seen a few bad reviews on companies I have seen nothing but good reports on.

To clarify, I mean I have seen bad reviews online on Youtube, Indeed, Glassdoor, etc. that I have seen nothing but good reviews from current employees, either on this or other forums, or on the company's Facebook page or website.

Robert D. (Raptor)'s Comment
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wtf.gifwtf.gifundefined What a bunch of crap to wake up to on a Friday! I don't know how old you are but you have shown that you must need some cheese with your whining! If you want to succeed in this business, that you say you want to stop all of of the BS and apply to as many companies as you can, then choose the one that gives you the most home time as you will not make that much if you do. Companies pay by the mile, unless your local and pay by the hour. So if you want to over analyze every detail you will never get started. So get off your high horse and get to work! These experienced truckers on this forum have been out there for a while. I don't think they are homeless. So they must be doing the job that the company that hired them are paying them to do.

If I have offended you or others on here,sorry.gif but it's too bad we have to listen to whinny babies who do not want to take advantage of the experience of this TT family. Maybe you need to get your financial stuff in order before you start. Maybe have your wife go to work until you finish training, sell something. But either S*** or get off the pot!

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Dan S.'s Comment
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Luke, if it seems like you arent getting the right answers... its because no one can tell you the exact numbers you want. Every single persons training is different, even at the same company. Splitters training was from Mar 1 to May 28. so 3.mos. and about a month before he had started getting paid. My training was from Sept 21st to Feb 14th. so almost 5.months. that is a big difference but had to do with me failing the test, the trainer taking 3 weeks off for the holidays and truck repairs.

So i got.to Prime 9/21 and got.my first pay 11/5. Another of our members did one week orientation, one week out over the road and then passed his CDL.on the first try. So his first check was like his 3rd week out.

This is why we keep.saying to be prepared. we cant answer exact numbers.

Also, keep in mind anything on your part will delay it. Struggling with backing, having an accident, even being sick....it could delay you.

good.luck

Truer words I can't recollect ever being spoken. Not ONLY by Rainy, but the other experienced drivers here. Heed their words.

I to fell to the many roller coaster of emotions, doubts, questions over analysis that can come with being a new driver? It took me a couple of days for me to get my head together, and thinking right, and back on the right track, it's an on going process.

As a new driver or soon to be driver there's A LOT OF traps one can find yourself in?

There are such things as OVER THINKING and OVER ANALYSIS to the point of paralysis.

Load up too much on NEGATIVE reviews, information, etc? Guess what merry little road that leads you down.

Don't go down that road!

As Rainy and others have pointed out, there are simply too many individual variables to predict anyone's particular outcome?

In the end? In my own particular situation I was my own worse enemy, and the single major contributor to my problems.

In other words, I was my own single worse enemy.

You've received some OUTSTANDING information, advice and guidance here.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Luke O.'s Comment
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Ya'll are probably right, Im over analyzing and over thinking the **** out of everything. Theres just so much conflicting information out there. Its a pure information overload type thing. I just want to make sure I make the right decision as much as possible. Im only human.

And Im the kind of person who likes to go into something with a plan A, plan B, plan C, and plan D. I want to be in control of my destiny as much as possible. Sorry I snapped. Theres a lot of **** on my mind lately, and someone telling me to "not research"....it rubbed me the wrong way.

Susan D. 's Comment
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The only research you'll need to do is to figure out if you're in their hiring area, do they have the type of freight you prefer to haul, and can they get you home in the time frame that you need personally.. whether that's home weekly, biweekly, monthly, etc. Other than those basics, just apply and see what offers you get.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
∆_Danielsahn_∆'s Comment
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From what I have read about Veriha, you would be lucky to have them accept you, and I wish they were hiring from my area, because they would definitely be high on my list.

Veriha does hire from our area. They were on my list of 5 that I applied to. They said yes, to me, but after I already started in school, with Swift. Give them a call.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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From what I have read about Veriha, you would be lucky to have them accept you, and I wish they were hiring from my area, because they would definitely be high on my list.

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Veriha does hire from our area. They were on my list of 5 that I applied to. They said yes, to me, but after I already started in school, with Swift. Give them a call.

Interesting, I will have to give them a call.

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