Update On New Millis Transfer Job

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G-Town's Comment
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I asked you to take a step back and provide links to the studies. And calling me a Super Trucker for asking that and offering my exoerience? Damn Dude you are so off-base here, no idea...

G-Town's Comment
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BullDozer...my response to your link is primarily for the benefit of others, because I think you have your mind made up and are completely uncoachable by me. You have shown a complete lack of respect for my experience, knowledge and reputation.

That said, thus is an apples to oranges comparison. Highly applicable to conventional academic environments, but not so much with Trucking schools.

First of all we are adults, not children.

Second the actual classroom study is a low percentage of how the trucking school curriculum is delivered. Most of the time is spent in the yard. The teacher to student ratio is about 1 to 5. As the class sizes dwindle, 1 to 4 or even 1 to 3.

How does that compare to the typical elementary classroom where it’s likely to have 25 students to one teacher?

BullDozer like I and Old School said, your making a good decision by going with Millis. You can believe the study all you want, that’s up to you, but I’m not buying into it. I’d suggest Millis’ teacher to student ratio is not going to be 1 to 1 or anything close to that, especially during the classroom phase which is less than 1/3rd of the actual schooling time. All it would do is drive up their costs without a significant return on that investment.

Apples to Oranges.

DWI:

Driving While Intoxicated

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I deleted a bunch of garbage just now from Bulldozer. We don't need any of that.

I don't want to be around a large group of people, while not all but some will be a huge distraction.

Well you should have a blast in Chicago rush hour traffic then. Would you like us to clear out the city so you won't be distracted?

Can you guys believe this dude is worried about others distracting him???

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Talk about distracted. I was enjoying the heck out of the Ohio State vs Michigan game. Now that I've put Bulldozer in "babysitter" mode where all of his comments need to be approved manually maybe I can go back to enjoying my game.

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Kevin L.'s Comment
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Wow that got a lil crazy lol. And from my time at the Cartersville, GA school we started with 12. Four didn't show up and one failed his drug test. After that one guy couldn't get the backing, but they were really trying to be patient and work with him...he just threw his hands up, refused to even try anymore and quit. So in the end we had three on the road and three backing during alternating weeks. I mean having a small class was great as far as extra time with driving and maneuvers, but they have it so well mapped out that they could have accommodated the full twelve with no problem. Great group of guys, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and look forward to getting on the road with my trainer Monday. Hope y'all had a great Thanksgiving, I'll check in again soon.

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Well it's critical to me and my success because I don't want to be around a large group of people, while not all but some will be a huge distraction. Possibly making my experience a bad one. You can say all day "well your there for you, so why would you let someone distract you." It will and it will possibly disrupt the whole class and trainers. Think about if the trainer is now upset because of a bad interaction with a trainee he/she will now possibly be in a bad mood and not be 100% focused on your training. Again these are just fact's. Go back to school days. Remember when some kids in class were acting up and what did the teachers do." Ok well wait for so and so to stop so we can continue" Fact's.

Class size, not company size. And while I agree it isn’t critical, I’m hoping for a bit more driving time before I get to my company school, and hopefully the smaller class gives me that. I would also like to pass first time, since NY charges $140 each road test. I would rather not enhance the state coffers any more than necessary.

To be honest though, after attending the classroom portion of my school, at this point I would definitely not recommend paying for your own schooling. Not that I leaned in that direction beforehand, but seeing the class part definitely reinforced it. I’m hoping the driving portion changes my mind, but honestly I doubt it. Sage may be a great school, but the one in Rome at least is extremely disorganized, and what we learned in class was nothing I didn’t already learn in the High Road training, other than looking up regulations.

For any driver planning to go OTR , I would definitely choose a company school, and I believe there were a couple that would put you on a regional or dedicated run out of school.

You also said in another post:

"I never said anything about it being a small company. I said the training class is small. That's why I chose Millis. Again I'm not trying to be a no it all but I'm 💯 on that fact. Studies have proven smaller student to teacher ratio is more beneficial in learning."

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On the first part, there won't be any distractions, bad interactions, or kids acting up in class, because they will immediately be shown the door, probably to find their own way home. The company MIGHT provide them with a bus ticket. This isn't high school. This is serious business, and the companies will not put up with BS from anyone.

The classroom part could be held in a football stadium, if it is anything like my classroom part of school. If you already have your CDL permit, and especially if you did the complete High Road series, there is little left to learn. I learned very little new other than how to look up regulations in the reg book. I finished at least 13 chapters (half the entire course) and tests of the book in 3 hours over a weekend, to clear up classroom time so we could get range time.

The only part of (private) school that matters is driving time. My guess is, and other members here can corroborate or correct me, that until you get your permit, company school is much the same. After you get your permit, orientation, drive time, company policy, etc., will be where you will actually learn something new. And the companies training you will not put up with any crap.

And with Millis and any company who trains like them, drive time isn't even an issue, since you will drive the truck for 30,000 to 50,000 miles and THEN get your CDL.

In my case, in private school, I need that driving time, because I will have to pass a road test at the end, and then I will go do the rest of what you will be doing in company school. And to be honest, it still may not be as important as I thought, because with maybe 4 hours of driving time, I was able to learn to shift, drive around the course, and complete the three maneuvers required to get my CDL. They aren't pretty at this point, but I was able to get it in the box on all three. A bit more practice and I should be good enough to get my CDL, so that I can go actually learn to drive, at a company school.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dedicated Run:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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