Prime PSD Training, From A Trainer's Perspective.

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Old School's Comment
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Great Stuff Turtle!

You remind me of a first time Dad anticipating that first birth his wife is laboring over. smile.gif

PackRat's Comment
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Don’t forget to get a picture this time, Turtle.

Turtle's Comment
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@€!$?! AARGH!!

Impeding traffic and unsafe action.

Another bonehead move during the road test, another auto fail.

Scenario: A right turn at an intersection with two turning lanes. He correctly used the outside turning lane, which put him in the left lane. A half mile or so further is a 20mph truck zone, in which you are supposed to be in the right lane. He never moved over to the right lane. So he slowed to 20 mph and put his hazards on, but he was still in the left lane.

In our many many hours of practice, this was never a problem. He always moved to the right lane, so I did not see a reason to reinforce the fact. Yet in the test he stayed in the left lane, impeding traffic and creating a dangerous situation.

I guess I'll need to reinforce every single possible scenario going forward.

Retest scheduled for wed 0830.

The silver lining: There is another PSD here who has failed her exam twice now. They want me to work with her tomorrow in hopes of passing her third and final shot at this. That's a lot of pressure on me, but more so on her. I'll do my best.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
PackRat's Comment
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That’s too bad, but you can’t blame yourself because he didn’t use his brain. He’ll get it on Wednesday for sure.good-luck.gif

Rob D.'s Comment
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Turtle,

Sorry to hear the bad news.

But again, the only part he needs to retake is the road test correct?

Rainy 's Comment
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I failed mine twice too. Just sounds like nervous, things fly out of his head.

I tell all of my students, "This is a company truck and if you hit something, not a big deal. just dont kill me or anyone else. There is nothing you can do to this truck that hasnt already been done. You wont kill the transmission or make the engine implode. Smaller vehicles cant go through you. They dont know you are new, or if the truck just lost all power and died. no one is pointing "look at that newbie".

Of course i wouldnt let them hit something, but like Patrick said about their concerns, it allows them to destress by not feeling like I am some harpy ready to flip out at a mistake.

Maybe this article will help him.

Failed the CDL Exam, Dont Sweat It

Getting recognized is still weird, but atleast you always look the same. My hair has been blonde black, red and they still recognize me lol

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Turtle's Comment
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Yeah, I've taken great care to keep him calm throughout our time together. When an incident would happen, I'd simply say no harm done, lesson learned. And to be fair, he did learn from each lesson. He's come a long way in a short time. Calling it a bonehead move wasn't meant as an insult or complaint on my part. I'm sure it was only nerves that caught hold of him, and he deserves credit for nailing the rest of the difficult road test. It's still a tough pill to swallow, considering all the time spent in practice.

That's what I signed up for, though. Nobody said it would be easy.

Turtle's Comment
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But again, the only part he needs to retake is the road test correct?

That's correct. CDL exams are 3 stages, done in order:

1- Pretrip. Must be passed before moving on to stage 2. If failed, you come back in 48hrs to try pretrip again.

2- Backing maneuvers. Same as above, must be passed before moving on to stage 3. If failed, you come back in 48hrs for a 2nd try at backing.

3- Road test. Same as above.

So having passed pretrip and backing on his first attempt, my student only has to retake the road test in 48hrs. Pretrip and backing are forever behind him now.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob D.'s Comment
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Retest scheduled for wed 0830.

And?

Turtle's Comment
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Oh shoot I forgot to mention the test was rescheduled for tomorrow, Thursday 0800. Something about a scheduling conflict. So we're in a holding pattern at the moment.

In the meantime, they're having me tutor some "last chance" students while I'm here. There's one guy who failed his road test twice, and a girl who failed the backing test twice. Both only get one more shot to pass, so we are spending yesterday and today in deep focused practice. I'm taking this as a personal challenge to bring them both around.

There's also a third guy who's PSD trainer had to take an unplanned leave. So he's tagging along, learning what he can while waiting to get back to Sprimo later today for a new trainer.

I went from 1 student to 4 in less than 24 hours lol. On one hand I like the fact that they trust me with this difficult challenge. But on the other hand, they're trusting me with this difficult challenge, and I want to produce results.

I can see a remarkable improvement already, and it makes me question the capabilities of their former trainers. Or maybe it's just that my style is easier to adapt to. Or maybe it's just that they're freezing up during the test. I don't know.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
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