ELD Mandate Deadline Looming, Many Still Not Compliant

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DaveW's Comment
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With the hard deadline for ELD compliance looming ever closer, and with no more extensions or grandfathering to be counted on, a significant portion of commercial carriers industry wide have yet to install the devices in their fleets.

ELD mandate deadline looming, many still not compliant

RealDiehl's Comment
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If I remember my orientation info correctly I think Prime uses AORBDs. Maybe someone (Rick S.) can chime in with what the difference is between AORBDs and ELDs.

Rick S.'s Comment
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If I remember my orientation info correctly I think Prime uses AORBDs. Maybe someone (Rick S.) can chime in with what the difference is between AORBDs and ELDs.

Right from the horses mouth: FMCSA Differences Between AORBS and ELD's

The main PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE - is that the older stuff didn't necessarily need to be connected to the trucks ECM (computer), and the ELD's ALL DO.

Rick

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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If I remember my orientation info correctly I think Prime uses AORBDs. Maybe someone (Rick S.) can chime in with what the difference is between AORBDs and ELDs.

The newer trucks have the AORBD... mine has the real ELD .... and people wont be happy. Prime has been installing them as trucks get turned in.

It trips from the time you started the truck. So say you start the truck at 9:55 of your break just to warm.it up.in the winter. You roll out at 10:01. the clock then violates you saying you need to restart your break. The truck was on before the end of the 30 min or 10 hr and that is it. you violated. This is going to be fun for.people who idle. You would actually have to turn off the truck, preferably for five minutes, then restart before taking off to start the clock.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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We are getting a whole new system installed no more People Net for us, my terminal is supposed to get it Aug 5th, sounds like there will be some adjusting to it as we can not move the truck at all with out it assigning time.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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We are getting a whole new system installed no more People Net for us, my terminal is supposed to get it Aug 5th, sounds like there will be some adjusting to it as we can not move the truck at all with out it assigning time.

remember companies have different settings. until you know how your company configures it you wont know. lol

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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Do I need to get my Cub Cadet in compliance?

Dan67's Comment
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And some of the new ELD systems are complete junk. We have Omnitracs XRS system installed. When it was set up as AORB and it worked well. But now it is a hot mess of garbage. It crashes 2 to 3 times a week, has other glitches when you will be in Drive and in motion and it will auto change your status too either OFF or ON Duty. It is made by the same company that owns the QC. It is supposed to be a low budget plug and play system.. but its not. All the drivers hate it, even the log department and the breakdown staff hate it. We are pushing for the company to go back to the Qualcomm.

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Rob T.'s Comment
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We are getting a whole new system installed no more People Net for us, my terminal is supposed to get it Aug 5th, sounds like there will be some adjusting to it as we can not move the truck at all with out it assigning time.

Bobcat we are doing the same. I believe it's the Samsara that we're switching to from peoplenet. There was a meeting all drivers were invited to in order to go over some of the rules changing. Unfortunately it was 730am on a Sunday and i was working. They haven't gone over the speaking points with me yet, however I overheard one of our upper management saying that no longer can we move the truck without being logged in. For OTR drivers that isnt much of an issue due to rarely logging out. For us when we dispatch ourselves for the trip we also log in on a computer in the office to "on duty". Usually I was moving the truck in the yard to grab my trailer, sometimes if it was taking forever I'd go to my trailer and allow it to finish loading while I'm hooking up. Soon I wont be able to do that. It will have a bigger negative impact on our mechanics and fuelers (we rarely fuel our own trucks) as they also must log in prior to moving it. In the event we get inspected it will be visible that the truck was moved without an active driver and will be a HOS violation. Not sure who would ultimately be responsible for that ticket as lower seniority guys slip seat but I'd rather not find out.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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