Okay I Am In Utter Need Of Help!!! I Have Been Out, You Guess It 2.5 Years...ugh.

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Victor C. II's Comment
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For one you definitely dont know what your talking about. 1. I was terminated, 2nd I asked if he thought I was ready, 3rd I got out more than most people to check my rear end. Remember only 2 of those was backing up. And your a rookie solo and so you dont have enough experience to really speak up. Let the more experience talk. Thanks. You need to quite being judgemental too.

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Well here is the good news, I am working with Pam Transport to do schooling through them. My contract of course is 12 months. Not bad. Roehl wants 15. I am not sure what TMC would want they have not gotten back to me yet over the live chat. I recognize in front of all you experienced drivers, that my history of driving is not exactly pristine, but I want a second chance and I will do anything to get that back. I hate to admit that I sometimes have regrets about not making them tell me no when it came down to better companies than Swift and I know some on here will resent I said that but it is true. Swift alone is great but not their trainers.

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But should not the trainer take responsibility too?

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Was he the one driving when you hit something?

If I followed your post correctly you had 5 accidents in 5 months? If so I doubt anyone will hire you, maybe try Western Express or CR England they are your best hope but do not hold your breath.

Plus it's been 2.5 years since you drove so you will need to redo school as your CDL is stable in more ways than one.

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I'd be willing to bet that TMC and Roehl will say no. As for Swift trainers, you need to stop going on about that. A company of that size doesn't get there by cutting corners and being mediocre. Maybe you had a bad trainer, it happens. But it's up to you to either fix it or make the best of it. You had those accidents because you made lazy choices. It's that simple. And if I understand you right, you quit. It's a miracle Swift didn't can you. It's a testament to their investment in you. Now, you expect a company with nothing vested in you to give you a shot when they have no skin in the game?

I don't think you'll have much success any where you go because you refuse to acknowledge that these preventables were your fault. The best trainers in the world can't replace a GOAL.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Victor C. II's Comment
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Sadly yea terminated. Not proud of it.

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I hate to admit that I sometimes have regrets about not making them tell me no when it came down to better companies than Swift and I know some on here will resent I said that but it is true. Swift alone is great but not their trainers.

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There are bad trainers, and great trainers for every company out there. We happen to have an excellent trainer for Swift on the board (Big T). Unfortunately unless the company receives several complaints about a trainer they're unaware of how he/she treats their students. That is why it's important to be honest when you're asked by driver development, or whatever swift calls it, about your experiences.

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But who would you suggest I go get a job with? More schooling?

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short answer? Anybody that will take you. Apply to companies that typically hire recent grads or have their own school. I dont think your previous driving experience will give you more companies to choose from. As I said before I'd be willing to bet you will need to redo school given the time away from the truck as well as the accidents. I dont think 5 months experience is long enough to qualify for a refresher instead of the whole schooling. Were you terminated from Swift or did you quit?

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Victor C. II's Comment
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Also your very arrogant in assuming that you know me! Stick a foot up your behind. I dont mind advice but I dont like insults like you.

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Well here is the good news, I am working with Pam Transport to do schooling through them. My contract of course is 12 months. Not bad. Roehl wants 15. I am not sure what TMC would want they have not gotten back to me yet over the live chat. I recognize in front of all you experienced drivers, that my history of driving is not exactly pristine, but I want a second chance and I will do anything to get that back. I hate to admit that I sometimes have regrets about not making them tell me no when it came down to better companies than Swift and I know some on here will resent I said that but it is true. Swift alone is great but not their trainers.

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But should not the trainer take responsibility too?

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Was he the one driving when you hit something?

If I followed your post correctly you had 5 accidents in 5 months? If so I doubt anyone will hire you, maybe try Western Express or CR England they are your best hope but do not hold your breath.

Plus it's been 2.5 years since you drove so you will need to redo school as your CDL is stable in more ways than one.

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I'd be willing to bet that TMC and Roehl will say no. As for Swift trainers, you need to stop going on about that. A company of that size doesn't get there by cutting corners and being mediocre. Maybe you had a bad trainer, it happens. But it's up to you to either fix it or make the best of it. You had those accidents because you made lazy choices. It's that simple. And if I understand you right, you quit. It's a miracle Swift didn't can you. It's a testament to their investment in you. Now, you expect a company with nothing vested in you to give you a shot when they have no skin in the game?

I don't think you'll have much success any where you go because you refuse to acknowledge that these preventables were your fault. The best trainers in the world can't replace a GOAL.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
JuiceBox's Comment
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Well this should be good... If you get a second chance I hope you are much more aware of your surroundings than you were in the past. A screw up or two is to be expected but five in as many months is a bit excessive. You learn most of what you know out here on your own. No trainer can prepare you for everything you will face. Goodluck to you sir, I hope you succeed with getting back into trucking.

PackRat's Comment
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Great comments there, Victor!

Since you have it all figured out (judging by your previous success), I'm not sure why you would need to post anything here.

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Mikey B.'s Comment
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For one you definitely dont know what your talking about. 1. I was terminated, 2nd I asked if he thought I was ready, 3rd I got out more than most people to check my rear end. Remember only 2 of those was backing up. And your a rookie solo and so you dont have enough experience to really speak up. Let the more experience talk. Thanks. You need to quite being judgemental too.

LMAO....says the NON-TRUCK DRIVER to the TRUCK DRIVER.

Dude, dont be so defensively hostile. Anything you did solo is your fault alone. Your trainer has no fault in your shortcomings and deserves none of the blame. Are all trainers good? No, but then neither are all students.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Banks's Comment
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For one you definitely dont know what your talking about. 1. I was terminated, 2nd I asked if he thought I was ready, 3rd I got out more than most people to check my rear end. Remember only 2 of those was backing up. And your a rookie solo and so you dont have enough experience to really speak up. Let the more experience talk. Thanks. You need to quite being judgemental too.

Yes, I am a rookie. Can you guess how many preventables I have? None backing up and none going forward.

You put your business on the internet and then get upset when people tell you the truth. It may be negative, but it's still the truth. You call it judgemental, but it's not. It's letting the evidence speak for itself. You'd think you'd learn after your first preventable, but nope you went and got 4 more.

Take care, Victor. I hope you figure it out but I doubt you will.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Big T's Comment
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You are already doing what you need to do. Apply everywhere and don't be picky. You aren't in a position to be picky.

You can't say you've been accident free since 2015 because you have five on your DAC.

When you're discussing these with potential employers be specific. Don't just say "I learned from my mistakes". It's a hollow statement. "I could have easily prevented the high hook accident had I stopped and did a GOAL before backing all the way under the trailer" tells someone you are taking responsibility and shows you understand what went wrong. I have seen drivers avoid termination doing that.

If you get hired on somewhere you will most likely have to go back through school and go back with a trainer. Be humble and be up front that you had problems with backing and trip planning. That way your trainer can make sure they show you.

Good luck.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Southern Dad's Comment
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I've hired scores of people over the last twenty years. When someone comes to me, and says that the accident was the fault of someone else, like the trainer, that tells me that they do not own the problem. If you do not own the problem, you can't fix the problem. The cause of your accidents was overconfidence in your ability, failure to take your time and the additional steps necessary, and recognizing your limitations. It wasn't the trainers fault. When you assumed control of that vehicle, YOU did so willingly.

When I was teaching my teenage daughter how to drive, I stressed many times that she was responsible for the vehicle, and her actions in it, no matter who was in the car with her. No one ever touches the control but the driver. That includes the radio. Do you know how ****ed that makes her brother? Doesn't matter, she's responsible for the vehicle. Not hearing a car coming, would still be her fault, even if someone else cranked it up.

Think back over the cause of the accidents/incidents that you had. What did you do wrong? How would avoid that in the future? I am getting ready to leave for CDL Training with a major carrier, later this month. I used the resources here to research the training provided by the different carriers. That research included how long the academy training is and how long the road training is. I also read the reviews for each carrier, on this site. Something that I decided to avoid was companies that used team dispatch during training. While I realize these companies get the student a CDL before training begins, I prefer to have a company that solo dispatches.

Maybe you didn't know about this site when you did your first foray into truck driving, but you do now. Use the site. Read the school diaries. Ask questions. Do not make the same mistakes that you made the first time.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Army 's Comment
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For one you definitely dont know what your talking about. 1. I was terminated, 2nd I asked if he thought I was ready, 3rd I got out more than most people to check my rear end. Remember only 2 of those was backing up. And your a rookie solo and so you dont have enough experience to really speak up. Let the more experience talk. Thanks. You need to quite being judgemental too.

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Yes, I am a rookie. Can you guess how many preventables I have? None backing up and none going forward.

You put your business on the internet and then get upset when people tell you the truth. It may be negative, but it's still the truth. You call it judgemental, but it's not. It's letting the evidence speak for itself. You'd think you'd learn after your first preventable, but nope you went and got 4 more.

Take care, Victor. I hope you figure it out but I doubt you will.

Nice advice and reply Banks. You keep driving your doubles and triples and let Victor squabble, complain, blame others, while you crank out the miles. This guy sounds toxic. I don't think he deserves to get behind the wheel of a 18 Wheeler.

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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