Trainer Kicked Me Off The Truck Tonight!

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HazMatdeus's Comment
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If you think you're trainer is bad then wait till you get around a security guard that is having bad day. That will make you tough up really QUICK.

I get being sensitive, and I get feeling that you are not getting enough explanation to fully understand, but even the nicest, most understanding instructor or trainer will sometimes give you a nice firm tone to let you know you're messing up.

I'm a bit sensitive myself, and some of the things my trainer said to me when I messed up I'd take to heart, I'd never express it, but I'd sure as hell would feel it. It gets even harder after training cause of a lot of these shippers, unloaders and what not will be super rude. These older guys are not lying when they say you need a thick skin.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I've been thinking about this a lot. The part that concerns me the most is this:

As for what I could’ve done different? I haven’t stopped thinking about this since it happened. I’m a very reflective person, and I’m the first to say, hey you know what I could’ve done this or that differently. I honestly can’t think of one thing I did. I honestly wouldn’t change a thing.

That would terrify me.

Jay, your job is to be a great student and to learn all you can. Your goal was to graduate from the training program and become a solo driver.

The teacher kicked you out of the classroom. He was not interested in teaching you the trade. He is not interested in helping you succeed with your goal.

So you failed to achieve your goals with that trainer. Is that fair to say? And yet you do not understand why. You didn't take any lessons from it, nor do you have a plan for improving your outcome the next time. So what you're saying is, "I'm perfect, it was 100% the trainer's fault. It was his failure, not mine."

I'm confident that there was something you could have done to reach your goals with this trainer. You know how I know that? Because other students have done it, so why couldn't you?

This leaves you in a terrible position. You fell short of your goals but you don't know why. What will stop the same thing from happening again?

Now I'm not placing any blame. I'm not saying anyone was right or wrong.

What I am saying is that learning from our failures and applying that knowledge to our next attempt is the most important thing we do in life. That's how we grow as people, that's how we improve our lives in every way. Whether it's relationships, business, sports, adventure, or any other pursuit in life we must keep growing and improving. We do that by learning from everything we do and applying those lessons later in life.

Again, I'm not placing blame. You know my motto - blaming, complaining, and criticizing helps no one. All I care about is helping people achieve their goals in trucking and live a fulfilling life. Learning from everything we do and applying those lessons later in life is the key to making that happen.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

RealDiehl's Comment
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If you think you're trainer is bad then wait till you get around a security guard that is having bad day. That will make you tough up really QUICK.

I get being sensitive, and I get feeling that you are not getting enough explanation to fully understand, but even the nicest, most understanding instructor or trainer will sometimes give you a nice firm tone to let you know you're messing up.

I'm a bit sensitive myself, and some of the things my trainer said to me when I messed up I'd take to heart, I'd never express it, but I'd sure as hell would feel it. It gets even harder after training cause of a lot of these shippers, unloaders and what not will be super rude. These older guys are not lying when they say you need a thick skin.

What you say about having to deal with all sorts of rude people while doing this job is true, HazMat. The difference between them and a trainer is that you dont have to live with them. Nor are you relying on them to get your career started. To a certain extent, a trainee is at his/her trainer's mercy, for an extended period of time. That's what makes it so difficult (as I'm sure you are aware from your own experience).

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Rubber Duck's Comment
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I don’t believe anything jay said about his trainer. None of it. It’s his word against his trainers. Jay was in a state of emotional overload and he admitted this. The way he perceived things was probably mostly in his head. I benefited so much from the things Brett, oldness and others have written on this forum before I went out with trainers. I think if J would of found the trucking truth before he went out he would of succeeded. Instead he found the trucking truth and used it to try and ruin his trainers life. If your brand new and getting on with a trainer and they hold you bound and gagged in the sleeper then please rat them out as soon as you possibly can. If you don't have a thick skin then now is the time to grow one. If your coming out of the private cdl school and going on to a company like Tmc it's going to be a real struggle. Your skills are not there yet. Instead of letting your emotions get the best of you put into practice everything you can learn from the trucking truth. Don't get all bent out of shape when someone calls you out for sucking. Your supposed to be able to perform if you wEnt to a private cdl school. Your a licensed cdl driver. Your not in training to learn how to back. Your in training to learn the company policies. Your there to learn how the company does things. Your there to learn securement and the lifestyle of being a trucker. Your there to prove you got what it takes to be on the team. This trainer probably doesn't have much to say to his boss about this new guy except that he's a problem and a rat. I don't think it will look good on him. I think this trainer is probably a really good trainer. He took him to practice backing. Most wouldn't do that for you.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Jay F.'s Comment
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I don’t believe anything jay said about his trainer. None of it. It’s his word against his trainers. Jay was in a state of emotional overload and he admitted this. The way he perceived things was probably mostly in his head. I benefited so much from the things Brett, oldness and others have written on this forum before I went out with trainers. I think if J would of found the trucking truth before he went out he would of succeeded. Instead he found the trucking truth and used it to try and ruin his trainers life. If your brand new and getting on with a trainer and they hold you bound and gagged in the sleeper then please rat them out as soon as you possibly can. If you don't have a thick skin then now is the time to grow one. If your coming out of the private cdl school and going on to a company like Tmc it's going to be a real struggle. Your skills are not there yet. Instead of letting your emotions get the best of you put into practice everything you can learn from the trucking truth. Don't get all bent out of shape when someone calls you out for sucking. Your supposed to be able to perform if you wEnt to a private cdl school. Your a licensed cdl driver. Your not in training to learn how to back. Your in training to learn the company policies. Your there to learn how the company does things. Your there to learn securement and the lifestyle of being a trucker. Your there to prove you got what it takes to be on the team. This trainer probably doesn't have much to say to his boss about this new guy except that he's a problem and a rat. I don't think it will look good on him. I think this trainer is probably a really good trainer. He took him to practice backing. Most wouldn't do that for you.

It’s you’re. Also you assume a lot. I’ve been here for months, and I didn’t try and ruin anyone’s life. I never once mentioned this guy by name, and I post under an alias as well.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Turtle Protege (formerly 's Comment
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Jay

What's the substantive update?

Jay F.'s Comment
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Brett it’s been a week, and you know what I would do things differently.

When I was 19 I worked on a vegetable farm. It was a lot of fun.(I grew up on a farm) one fall day there was about 12 of us picking pumpkins. All teenage boys, and the youngest was 14. We picked on him relentlessly. He took it like a champ. That day however one guy went too far. He took a pumpkin and threw it from the wagon and hit the 14 year old boy square in the back as he was bent over. The kid had to go to the hospital he had a bruised kidney. The Forman who was 23 and was in on it, pulled us all aside, and came up with an elaborate story. One problem! Me. I had values. I knew what happened, and I knew how serious it was. I knew what the truth was. The Forman was best friends with the owner. It was an uphill battle. One day the owner finally looked at me, and said you know what. Your story is the only one that hasn’t changed. Everyone else’s changes every time they tell it. It’s funny how the truth never changes. It’s so simple. I lost friendships over that, but I gained the respect of the owner.

I wish at 41 I was as firm in my principles as I was at 19. If I was, when this trainer uttered the N word I would’ve pulled that truck over and gotten off of it. You said we had a difference in values, and that’s false. He had serious character flaws, and was a horrible person. He repeatedly bragged about how he was an a-hole. If that makes me weak or soft so be it. I wanted to do this so bad that I left things go that I would’ve never let go in the past. Wrong is wrong and right is right.

I don’t think I’m cut out to be a truck driver. I struggle with my left and right. I have my whole life. Makes backing tough. I have no doubts if I could have unlimited time I could get it, but that’s not realistic, and that’s Ok.

I truly thank you for this website it’s one of a kind, and provides a great service. Job well done. I learned a lot for these forums and all the articles you have.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Rubber Duck's Comment
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Thank you J. My English is terrible and I appreciate it when someone helps me to learn english even if it hurts my feelings and my ego. I do apologize j. I think I did assume to much. I hope you get on with a good trainer and make it in flatbed.

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I don’t believe anything jay said about his trainer. None of it. It’s his word against his trainers. Jay was in a state of emotional overload and he admitted this. The way he perceived things was probably mostly in his head. I benefited so much from the things Brett, oldness and others have written on this forum before I went out with trainers. I think if J would of found the trucking truth before he went out he would of succeeded. Instead he found the trucking truth and used it to try and ruin his trainers life. If your brand new and getting on with a trainer and they hold you bound and gagged in the sleeper then please rat them out as soon as you possibly can. If you don't have a thick skin then now is the time to grow one. If your coming out of the private cdl school and going on to a company like Tmc it's going to be a real struggle. Your skills are not there yet. Instead of letting your emotions get the best of you put into practice everything you can learn from the trucking truth. Don't get all bent out of shape when someone calls you out for sucking. Your supposed to be able to perform if you wEnt to a private cdl school. Your a licensed cdl driver. Your not in training to learn how to back. Your in training to learn the company policies. Your there to learn how the company does things. Your there to learn securement and the lifestyle of being a trucker. Your there to prove you got what it takes to be on the team. This trainer probably doesn't have much to say to his boss about this new guy except that he's a problem and a rat. I don't think it will look good on him. I think this trainer is probably a really good trainer. He took him to practice backing. Most wouldn't do that for you.

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It’s you’re. Also you assume a lot. I’ve been here for months, and I didn’t try and ruin anyone’s life. I never once mentioned this guy by name, and I post under an alias as well.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
andhe78's Comment
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I’ve got to assume then, that unless your trainer is Jesus Christ himself, he isn’t going to live up to your high moral standards?

Brett Aquila's Comment
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First I want to say I'm super psyched you're still with us, Jay. I thought we lost you.

I'm short on time but I want to throw this out there. Jay, one of the biggest challenges we all face is sharing the world with people who don't share our values or our agenda. We have to be true to ourselves and chase our dreams, which is tough when most people aren't interested in us, they're interested in themselves.

Just stick to living by your values and surround yourself with the best people you can. Even more importantly, don't let someone deter you from your mission. Stay on course. A ship doesn't just let itself sink when it hits a storm. It fights for survival. It fights to stay afloat and remain on course. When the weather clears it will make fast progress again toward its destination.

Hopefully you're with another trainer or you will be soon, and this will just be a storm that knocked you off course a bit. It happens. Soldier on.

Remember, also, that you don't have to care or take offense when someone lives to a lower standard. If you don't use racial slurs that's great. If someone else does you don't have to care. You can ignore it. Sure, it sucks to hear it but you have more important things to worry about. You can't fight every battle. Don't get distracted by things that won't help you reach your goals.

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