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John M.'s Comment
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I posted here about 5 weeks ago concerning being fired at Western Ex. 4th day on truck with trainer scrape front end of another rig @3mph and some how punturered radiator, towed, fired. Literally applied at boo coo companies denied if I ever get a response at all. My lis. we're clean until now. What has caught my eye is reading a couple other threads on this forum. Both incidents were with Western Ex. #1 The trainy jacked knifed and totaled the rig. He talked 2 safety and kept his job? #2 Something simlier, talk s to safety gets 2 keep his carrier. Myself I sit n rig from Sat.till Tue. at terminal Do not get 2 talk 2 safety just told 2 hit the road.??? I am starting to think?? I am easy going get along with every 1. Accident 100% my fault. I do not no if there is a ? There but some. Thing seems not right Thx for any response. John


A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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I would call the safety department and ask them why you were fired. Also, shouldn't you have had an accident review.

Were you logged off duty at the time of your accident? That would make it a logs violation as well.

Call companies before applying. Tell them what happened and see if you have a shot.

Good luck.

Rubber Duck's Comment
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John I know! It’s crazy they fired you for that. I have a friend who worked at western and he had an accident with his trainer then he went on to have many many accidents including several load shifts and he never got fired for it. I think it might of just been bad luck for you. I don’t see why nobody will take you and I wouldn’t give up. If you applied at a thousand company’s try and apply for a thousand more and make sure your finding out why they won’t take you. Then you can work on that or get better advice on what to do. I don’t yet see why nobody will hire you for a little fender bender on private property with no police report. Or am I wrong about this incident?

G-Town's Comment
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Are we getting the whole story here...all of the details and not just the headlines?

Turtle's Comment
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John comes in here every few weeks and starts a new thread asking the same question, always receiving the same advice.

Obviously there's more to the story here that he isn't telling us. It's either an attitude problem, other undisclosed incidents, an inability to take full ownership of the accident ("only 3mph" and "somehow punctured radiator"), or some other hidden reason.

Regardless, our advice is not going to change with repeated postings.

Don's Comment
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John, just as there are only 2 ways to peel a banana, there are only two ways to keep answering your question: what you have been advised to do, and what you want to hear.

G-Town's Comment
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John, just as there are only 2 ways to peel a banana, there are only two ways to keep answering your question: what you have been advised to do, and what you want to hear.


Moe's Comment
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John, just as there are only 2 ways to peel a banana, there are only two ways to keep answering your question: what you have been advised to do, and what you want to hear.


Mike B.'s Comment
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I think you are down playing the accident. How can a scrape puncture a radiator. Its like the black knight from Monty Python and the Holy grail just opposite. Scrapes in my opinion are what you see on the side skirt where some rubbed way too close to something. And My God dude a rookie at this and your post are the definition of insanity... Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome. Get off your donkey and either take their educated advice or end this chapter of your life. Im just saying.

Old School's Comment
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Do not get 2 talk 2 safety just told 2 hit the road.???

John, what exactly does that mean? Were you sitting around expecting them to call you? After I had gone through orientation at Western, I had all the phone numbers and contacts I needed. My first reaction would have been Quallcomm messages to safety followed by persistent phone calls until I made contact with them.

If you lacked initiative it may have appeared as defiance or negligence. You have got to make the conversation happen. As a trainee, you simply can't rely on your trainer's response in a critical situation like an accident. It's possible your trainer threw you under the bus - you don't know without being involved in the conversation. There's something missing here. I was employed at Western Express, and they were always very thorough and helpful when new trainees got in an accident. There's no way for us to try to conjure up what's missing.

You may know the missing pieces, and then again, you may not. If you don't, then we sure can't raise them up from the darkness. Your conversations with safety are critical components in their assessment of whether you are a responsible person or not. That conversation gives them the information they need to determine if you are worth continuing with or not. Personal responsibility is a critical characteristic they look for. If you made no effort at resolving this yourself, you probably sealed your fate.

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