Questions About Name-changes, Social Security Numbers And Trucking Employment

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Moose Holland's Comment
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Scenario: one legally changes his name from "Joseph Robert Smith" to "James Thomas Brown" by a judge: Mr. Brown then gets a car driver license under his corrected name: Mr. Brown, at age 50, has had an issued social security number as Mr. Smith that is 123-45-6789 since age 18 but he never applies with the SSA to get a new card: Mr. Brown then goes to apply to be a truck driver with a company-sponsored training program, example Schneider or Hunt: he applies under "James Thomas Brown" but uses 123-45-6789 as his social issued as "Joseph Robert Smith"on his application

Will this hypothetically cause trouble with his employer? Is it true the IRS only cares about the SSN and not so much as any name associated with it? Is it really necessary for Mr. Brown to contact SSA for a card under his new legal name in order to get employment and/or a CDL? Your SSN still stays the same even if you change your name to Howard Hoaxer Humblepie.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Greg M.'s Comment
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Yes it would cause a problem. Making employee a PITA to their employer. No idea why I am taking the bait on this.

From Social Security Website:

The Social Security Administration (SSA) is committed to maintaining the accuracy of earnings records used to determine benefit amounts to ensure customers get the benefits they have earned.

In March of 2019, we began mailing notifications to employers identified as having at least one name and Social Security Number (SSN) combination submitted on wage and tax statement (Form W-2) that do not match our records. The purpose of the letter is to advise employers that corrections are needed in order for us to properly post its employee’s earnings to the correct record. There are a number of reasons why reported names and SSNs may not agree with our records, such as typographical errors, unreported name changes, and inaccurate or incomplete employer records.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
midnight fox's Comment
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It depends.... is it Thursday or Friday?

Rob D.'s Comment
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Todd, under the name Donald B. posted a similar story before.

Donald B name change

He's just recycling that topic.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Turtle's Comment
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Well, it's all relative to the moon phase Todd.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Here is an amazing thought.... Women do this all the time due to marriage and divorce. SS and IRA just list them as "also known as".

The IRS will find you. Qhen I got married , Social Security never properly changed my name although I applied in person. So guess what..... My CDL has a hyphenated name. My SS has my maiden name and the bank and credit cards cash the checks.

I never had an issue until my sister died. My info was listed as witness and somehow SS said I was alive but IRS said I was dead....despite being a federal employee at the time. IRS rejected my returns for 3 years until they straightened it out on their end....not my fault

Women just need to provide the name change documents to DMV.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Moose Holland's Comment
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Here is an amazing thought.... Women do this all the time due to marriage and divorce. SS and IRA just list them as "also known as".

The IRS will find you. Qhen I got married , Social Security never properly changed my name although I applied in person. So guess what..... My CDL has a hyphenated name. My SS has my maiden name and the bank and credit cards cash the checks.

I never had an issue until my sister died. My info was listed as witness and somehow SS said I was alive but IRS said I was dead....despite being a federal employee at the time. IRS rejected my returns for 3 years until they straightened it out on their end....not my fault

Women just need to provide the name change documents to DMV.

It can take SS up to six weeks to change a name on a SS card once the application is submitted, I read. I don't know if a driver would actually get fired by a mega for having an SSN and name that don't match. They would probably just be told to correct this with SS ASAP. It's probably just a good idea to get the name-change done at SSA before applying for a job. This way if there is anything negative connected with your former name (negative work history, conviction, bad credit, etc.) , SSA won't inform your employer that your SSN given matches your former name which they might provide to the employer also.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
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Here is an amazing thought.... Women do this all the time due to marriage and divorce. SS and IRA just list them as "also known as".

The IRS will find you. Qhen I got married , Social Security never properly changed my name although I applied in person. So guess what..... My CDL has a hyphenated name. My SS has my maiden name and the bank and credit cards cash the checks.

I never had an issue until my sister died. My info was listed as witness and somehow SS said I was alive but IRS said I was dead....despite being a federal employee at the time. IRS rejected my returns for 3 years until they straightened it out on their end....not my fault

Women just need to provide the name change documents to DMV.

Kearsey, it was nice chatting in the Y/T last night~!

O/P (We shall never know your real name, Mr. Holmes ..and probably not John, haha!) you sure do well changing your name up here, and on the 'other' forum.. so ... you have your OWN answers and parameters, methinks~!

Again, to Kearsey (Rainy, haha! << name change with NOTICE~!) as you know I am married to Tom, and pretty sure you know his last name; not important. I didn't change my last name; didn't see a need to. Our son has his last name; all that matters. . . .

How is this even 'really' a trucking topic?

Carry on, folks. Wish you the best, Moose. Get in a dang truck already. Isn't your 'short' a 'stump' by now, or ....when?

Luck in battle, as TripleSix would say (y'all both know whom i refer to, for sure!)

Anne ~ :)

ps: sidebar ~ Kearsey ... you should start a chat group somewhere, called 'Kickin'it withKearsey.' I'd be in.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Here is an amazing thought.... Women do this all the time due to marriage and divorce. SS and IRA just list them as "also known as".

The IRS will find you. Qhen I got married , Social Security never properly changed my name although I applied in person. So guess what..... My CDL has a hyphenated name. My SS has my maiden name and the bank and credit cards cash the checks.

I never had an issue until my sister died. My info was listed as witness and somehow SS said I was alive but IRS said I was dead....despite being a federal employee at the time. IRS rejected my returns for 3 years until they straightened it out on their end....not my fault

Women just need to provide the name change documents to DMV.

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It can take SS up to six weeks to change a name on a SS card once the application is submitted, I read. I don't know if a driver would actually get fired by a mega for having an SSN and name that don't match. They would probably just be told to correct this with SS ASAP. It's probably just a good idea to get the name-change done at SSA before applying for a job. This way if there is anything negative connected with your former name (negative work history, conviction, bad credit, etc.) , SSA won't inform your employer that your SSN given matches your former name which they might provide to the employer also.

So what you are saying is that although you have no experience whatsoever in name changing, you are going to second guess someone who has, and then continue to draw uninformed conclusions.

I have the best advice for you anyone can give.....

Seek help. Professional mental help. From a layman's POV you need to inquire of obsessive compulsive disorder, low self esteem, hypochondria, and improving social skills.

Good luck

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

PackRat's Comment
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Ignoring The Mega Troll....

How is everyone else doing today? I'm parked in a soybean field in Defiance, Ohio, waiting on a Johns Manville insulation load and having my 10 hour break.

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