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Rick S.'s Comment
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Old School pretty much NAILS IT.

I've been self employed for, going on 40 years now. Figured the only way I could "stomach" getting into trucking - was to "buy in" and be my own boss.

Had business plans (approved by accountant and attorney, the $$, everything ready to jump a few years ago - and BAILED on the plan. RISK TO REWARD RATIO WAS TOO GREAT.

As OS said - YOU CANNOT GET INSURED - or at least - only SINGLE STATE (with the occasional "state next door" runs). Unless you already have a market laid out for you - there is NO WAY TO MAKE $$. And congress is getting ready to UP THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS - so it gets EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.

I get that you "don't want to be obligated to a company" - but in all honesty - it is THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOURSELF.

First off - it gets you trained and experienced, so if you decide to make the jump - you are at least insurable (or more insurable) and you KNOW THE ROPES (or at least some of them).

PLUS - you get to SEE IF THIS LIFE IS ACTUALLY FOR YOU - BEFORE YOU BLOW SERIOUS $$'s.

Sounds like you have your mind made up. I get it - I ALWAYS KNOW WHAT I'M DOING (can't tell me feces).

If you "don't want to grind that hard" - YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO JUST JUMP IN AS AN OWNER OPERATOR.

People on youtube aren't going to tell you HOW BAD IT SUCKS - when you need a top end rebuild, because you lost a couple of injector seals and burnt a couple of valves up..

The EASIEST WAY NOT TO GRIND THAT HARD - is to GO DRIVE SOMEONE ELSES TRUCK. The only thing you're responsible for, is FOLLOWING THE RULES (which you would have to do ANYWAYS), NOT HIT ANYTHING (which you would have to do ANYWAYS), and GET THERE ON TIME (which you would have to do ANYWAYS).

No getting screwed on double-brokered loads, waiting to collect on "net-30" bills, maintenance, COMPLIANCE (which is a huge PITA, and one paperwork mistake can have your authority pulled).

If you really want to be on your own - with much less risk - go get yourself a 3500 with a fifth wheel, and a 5-6 car hauler trailer - and go haul cars. Or an enclosed trailer and haul motorcycles (I have friends that DO BOTH).

Right now - with a new administration coming in, and NO WAY OF KNOWING which way the "regulatory winds" are going to blow - IS PROBABLY THE.WORST.TIME to make a move like this.

So SAVE YOUR $$ ON SCHOOL - take a deep breath and a step back.

Even the couple of folks on here - that own their own trucks - got EXPERIENCE FIRST - and then got a truck and are "leased onto" a carrier. But even carriers will not take on someone with ZERO EXPERIENCE. Even outfits like LandStar won't take you on.

Go over to some of the other trucking sites and tell them what you have in mind. They likely will not be NEARLY AS KIND AS WE ARE HERE.

I am a "self made man" - and I can "do anything I set my mind to". I'm just wired that way. But the ROI just DOESN'T PAY. If I thought it did - I would be GIVING YOU ADVICE ON HOW I DID IT.

Rick

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Sid V.'s Comment
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No one will insure you with a reasonable rate without 3 years experience at a minimum. Don't bother. Don't believe me? Call for quotes and see how many times you get blown off.

Here's a reality check. The internet and YouTube is is a bunch of fakers and liars. All they care about is likes and subscribes.

JakeBreak's Comment
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Most companies aren't going to push you harder than you want to be pushed. You want to push hard n run out the 70 n reset n do it again you can. You want to take it easy, run an easy 8 9 hrs a day n run recaps you can do it. The biggest thing you need to do is make it on time and don't hit anything.

Shadow Trucker's Comment
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Thank You Rick S. and OS... You guys know what you are talking about and I am taking your sage advise!! I'm not stupid. That's why I came to this forum. To be told what "I didn't want to hear" not what I wanted to hear... I'm glad I heard the truth.

Thank You for taking the time to respond with the detail that you did... I get it !!

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Thank You Rick S. and OS... You guys know what you are talking about and I am taking your sage advise!! I'm not stupid. That's why I came to this forum. To be told what "I didn't want to hear" not what I wanted to hear... I'm glad I heard the truth.

Thank You for taking the time to respond with the detail that you did... I get it !!

Go watch my Youtube channel where I compare lease Op settlements to my pay and break it down. As a company driver I make more than them and take more time off.

If you dont want to run hard... Forget being an OO. There are ways of managing your clock to get extra down time. Home time flexibility may be a little different.

Roehl is the one that has the most flexibility but it depends on your location and their routes.

Shadow Trucker's Comment
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Thank You Rick S. and OS... You guys know what you are talking about and I am taking your sage advise!! I'm not stupid. That's why I came to this forum. To be told what "I didn't want to hear" not what I wanted to hear... I'm glad I heard the truth.

Thank You for taking the time to respond with the detail that you did... I get it !!

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Go watch my Youtube channel where I compare lease Op settlements to my pay and break it down. As a company driver I make more than them and take more time off.

If you dont want to run hard... Forget being an OO. There are ways of managing your clock to get extra down time. Home time flexibility may be a little different.

Roehl is the one that has the most flexibility but it depends on your location and their routes.

Thanks for the video. I think I will change my course. Gonna start looking into companies that are a good fit for me..

PackRat's Comment
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Excellent idea and that's always been the direction we try to steer everyone towards when starting in this extremely rewarding adventure.

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Rob T.'s Comment
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Gonna start looking into companies that are a good fit for me..

what I'd recommend is use this link to Apply For Paid CDL Training. You'll fill out one application and it will be sent to numerous companies. After you get some offers then look at these Company reviews and ask the recruiter questions to find what fits you best. Far too often people waste alot of time to find the perfect company just to find out that company won't hire them.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Jammer a's Comment
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I second everything old school an kearsey are giving you freely friend.. I went to Pheonix truck driving school you’ll get your license and be out the door in 3 weeks then you’ll go somewhere to drive with a trainer pretty much team driving then you’ll get your rig and start running trying to figure out how to do your books right plan your trip being on time how to back into some crazy docks just a lot of stuff I can’t tell you how much more there is to know than just driving I wish I would have went another rout everyone on here will shoot straight with you good luck

Something to realize is that " schooling" and "training" are two completely different things

Schooling teaches you enough to get your CDL. Training teaches you everything else. Hours of Service, DOT rules, mechanical issues, routing and trip planning, dealing with bills of lading and customers, refining your driving skills.

Many people are under the misconception that a local CDL school teaches you enough to be a trucker. It doesnt.

It is also a misconception that company drivers are slaves or micromanaged or at the mercy of the company. I am essentially my own boss without the hassle and liability.

There is way too much more to know.... Spot markets, leasing freight contract, load boards, high risk downpayments and interest rates for first time buyers WITH years of experience

Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Shadow Trucker's Comment
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I second everything old school an kearsey are giving you freely friend.. I went to Pheonix truck driving school you’ll get your license and be out the door in 3 weeks then you’ll go somewhere to drive with a trainer pretty much team driving then you’ll get your rig and start running trying to figure out how to do your books right plan your trip being on time how to back into some crazy docks just a lot of stuff I can’t tell you how much more there is to know than just driving I wish I would have went another rout everyone on here will shoot straight with you good luck

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Are you saying that you wish you did not go to Phoenix School and instead went directly to a Company Paid School ? Because I am considering going to Phoenix getting my CDL and then going on to training with a company. I did watch Kearsey's video where she does not recommend going that route but thinks going directly with Prime from the start is a better option. Thanks

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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