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Seppo's Comment
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What is the deal with recruiters? Seriously though, it's like blood from a stone with some of these people. When I was new to this five years ago and leaning heavily on this site for info, it seemed that the consensus was to get everything in writing - that way there's no confusion later on down the road. However, for every recruiter you find who's happy to answer all your questions over email or chat, it seems that there's three who just say "yeah, give me a call and we can discuss all that" ad nauseam. Was just trying to chat with one recruiter on Pulse to get some basic questions answered who told me to call him three times in the span of eight messages...the third time a bit forcefully, I might add.

Is it that they don't want to tell you anything on record that could come back to bite them later on? Are they just too lazy to go to the trouble of typing out an email? Or is it some sort of combination of the two? I mean, they're salespeople...they're trying to sell YOU on a job. Why wouldn't they at least try to accommodate you on your level?

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Seppo, here's a quote from you almost four years ago...

Is there a reason why most recruiters refuse to communicate via e-mail? Any time I try to send a message with questions I get a reply saying "give me a call and we can discuss that". I'd rather be in touch by e-mail for sake of convenience, plus, as I've read on this website it's best to get everything in writing so there's no question about what was promised afterwards. So is that the reason? Do recruiters just not want to get caught guaranteeing something their company can't provide? Or is it just laziness, that they don't feel like typing out a response? And yeah I get that they're busy and have many prospective drivers to talk to, but it can't take more than five minutes to send a quick message back. So what gives?

It appears you're still having the same issues. I'm not sure what the problem is but salespeople generally feel they can do better by talking something up with you. Maybe you need to figure out a compromise and try to get just a few important things in an email. Also keep in mind: recruiters go for the low hanging fruit. If you don't seem so willing to come on board, they've probably got easier persons they can sell. You may be causing your own resistance.

I'm not trying to discourage you from finding out what you want, but maybe you can be a little less aggressive with your approach. I realize I'm assuming a lot. But seeing that you've had this same issue before makes me curious. I haven't dealt with a lot of recruiters, but my experience has been that they were fairly helpful.

Vicki M.'s Comment
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What is the deal with recruiters? Seriously though, it's like blood from a stone with some of these people. When I was new to this five years ago and leaning heavily on this site for info, it seemed that the consensus was to get everything in writing - that way there's no confusion later on down the road. However, for every recruiter you find who's happy to answer all your questions over email or chat, it seems that there's three who just say "yeah, give me a call and we can discuss all that" ad nauseam. Was just trying to chat with one recruiter on Pulse to get some basic questions answered who told me to call him three times in the span of eight messages...the third time a bit forcefully, I might add.

Is it that they don't want to tell you anything on record that could come back to bite them later on? Are they just too lazy to go to the trouble of typing out an email? Or is it some sort of combination of the two? I mean, they're salespeople...they're trying to sell YOU on a job. Why wouldn't they at least try to accommodate you on your level?

I have put in 3 driver apps. Marked the box that I didn't want a call (because I'm a few months out from being able to do this for sure). 3 of them called me. I called all 3 back and NONE of them answered their phones :D I'll try again on my days off.
Jammer a's Comment
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Lol most recruiters have profiles that say they’re actors all the ones I’ve dealt with you’ve been driving for about 5 yrs right? There shouldn’t be to much ch u shouldn’t know already !!!

Seppo, here's a quote from you almost four years ago...

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Is there a reason why most recruiters refuse to communicate via e-mail? Any time I try to send a message with questions I get a reply saying "give me a call and we can discuss that". I'd rather be in touch by e-mail for sake of convenience, plus, as I've read on this website it's best to get everything in writing so there's no question about what was promised afterwards. So is that the reason? Do recruiters just not want to get caught guaranteeing something their company can't provide? Or is it just laziness, that they don't feel like typing out a response? And yeah I get that they're busy and have many prospective drivers to talk to, but it can't take more than five minutes to send a quick message back. So what gives?

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It appears you're still having the same issues. I'm not sure what the problem is but salespeople generally feel they can do better by talking something up with you. Maybe you need to figure out a compromise and try to get just a few important things in an email. Also keep in mind: recruiters go for the low hanging fruit. If you don't seem so willing to come on board, they've probably got easier persons they can sell. You may be causing your own resistance.

I'm not trying to discourage you from finding out what you want, but maybe you can be a little less aggressive with your approach. I realize I'm assuming a lot. But seeing that you've had this same issue before makes me curious. I haven't dealt with a lot of recruiters, but my experience has been that they were fairly helpful.

CajunWon's Comment
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If the recruiters are only answers by text, then they are not sales people. If they get you to call, then the call can be scripted, reviewed by management, close the deal - at least to the next step. I have crst texting me answers so I'm better prepared when I call Prime, Roehl,...

btw: finally got to take CLP w/Tanker yesterday after 3 months of random office closings. 85% were identical to HighRoads.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Seppo's Comment
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I'm not trying to discourage you from finding out what you want, but maybe you can be a little less aggressive with your approach. I realize I'm assuming a lot. But seeing that you've had this same issue before makes me curious. I haven't dealt with a lot of recruiters, but my experience has been that they were fairly helpful.

Ha ha, totally forgot about that post from four years ago. Not much has changed...right down to the specific wording of my complaining! Still gotta twist their arms just to get a CPM out of 'em and find out whether they have driver facing cameras or not.

Also, as grateful as I am for how helpful this website was when I was first starting out, I had a good feeling the very first reply here would immediately remind me why I stopped frequenting this forum

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CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

G-Town's Comment
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Seppo has feelings...

I had a good feeling the very first reply here would immediately remind me why I stopped frequenting this forum

And we’re grateful for your infrequent love bombing of us. See you in four years...

PackRat's Comment
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Davy A.'s Comment
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What is the deal with recruiters? Seriously though, it's like blood from a stone with some of these people. When I was new to this five years ago and leaning heavily on this site for info, it seemed that the consensus was to get everything in writing - that way there's no confusion later on down the road. However, for every recruiter you find who's happy to answer all your questions over email or chat, it seems that there's three who just say "yeah, give me a call and we can discuss all that" ad nauseam. Was just trying to chat with one recruiter on Pulse to get some basic questions answered who told me to call him three times in the span of eight messages...the third time a bit forcefully, I might add.

Is it that they don't want to tell you anything on record that could come back to bite them later on? Are they just too lazy to go to the trouble of typing out an email? Or is it some sort of combination of the two? I mean, they're salespeople...they're trying to sell YOU on a job. Why wouldn't they at least try to accommodate you on your level?

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I have put in 3 driver apps. Marked the box that I didn't want a call (because I'm a few months out from being able to do this for sure). 3 of them called me. I called all 3 back and NONE of them answered their phones :D I'll try again on my days off.

Have you tried filling out the quick apply or full application on their websites? I did and my phone, email and texts have been ringing off the hook from them. I Talked with Knight for about an hour the other day, also got approved for hire by Wilson and Prime.

Seppo's Comment
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Have you tried filling out the quick apply or full application on their websites? I did and my phone, email and texts have been ringing off the hook from them. I Talked with Knight for about an hour the other day, also got approved for hire by Wilson and Prime.

Yeah, that's always my first move. I'm finding the Pulse by Tenstreet site very helpful, lets you chat directly with recruiters instead of going through email which can take much longer for responses.

Looks like you're new here, good on ya for the pre-hires. I drove for Knight for the last few years in their refrigerated division. Obviously I can't speak to whatever city you'd be based out of if you went with them, but I had a great staff at my home terminal. They always looked out for me and resolved any issues I had promptly. It honestly felt like driving for a smaller company because I interacted with those same few people 98 percent of the time; only really had to talk to anyone at the headquarters in Phoenix late night on weekends. I'd definitely recommend them...but then, I don't know much about Wilson and Prime to compare to. Happy to answer any Knight related questions you may have

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Pre-hires:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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