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Jonathan W.'s Comment
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If it's not Werner's fault for giving me poor training, then explain why I'm way better at driving buses than I ever was at truck driving. Maybe it's because they didn't train me properly. And are you seriously gonna say it's not Werner's fault I couldn't pay my car note, even though they gave me poor training, then fired me when I made a mistake? Also, Family Dollar's trailers may have HAD sliding tandems , but I couldn't ever get them to slide. No matter what, they just wouldn't move. Also, how is it my fault Werner falsely accused me of willful malicious behavior? I can't believe you could possibly defend companies falsely accusing people of stuff. They lied and said I wanted to get fired, which was NOT true. I went to hell and back for that company. Unloading trailers until three in the morning, and THIS is how they repaid me.

As for "adding details," that's because people keep acting like the experiences I had were completely fabricated, so I feel I have to mention every single detail for clarity. I don't know why anyone would think I WAS lying about it, though. What would I have to gain? I don't understand how anyone could defend Werner after what they did to me. I don't understand why everyone seems to think it makes perfect sense NOT to give people proper training, then get mad at them when they made a mistake. If Werner was such a great company, they could've been bothered to TELL me how to use a load bar, instead of making me look like an idiot in front of the customer.

Also, why would anyone get fired on purpose? That doesn't make any sense. You sound like those people Amazon pays to go on social media and down-play complaints people have about working there.


Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".


Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".


Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Stevo Reno's Comment
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A load bar ain't rocket science buses aren't 70+ feet long with a pivot point to watch ur tail end turning corners.....training HA mine was actually 15 days AT the school had my license in 10 days.

2 years otr never hit as much as a deer lol.....many have crossed in front of me.....

Those stop lines set back seem to be in a LOT of north eastern cities n states. Never had anyone stopped ahead of them, few did need to back up to gimme just a bit more clearance. Like in New Jersey,,,,PA..Etc. taught to use ALL available space making turns.

There's a Daylight Transport place near downtown LA where train tracks are in middle of streets. Well, it's a part residential street at the turn....parked cars have been hit a few times I was warned. My 1st time going there I slowly made my button hook making sure I didn't hit cars in front of me at curb. Looked at rear corner of my trailer and made it by the car parked right at corner of the curbs by maybe 3 inches !! That was a butt clincher moment for sure.....

2nd time there, no cars were parked that close to the corner...whewwwww like I was told before the people living there might come out n watch you turn......just in case lol Daylight Trans in Jersey City, is bad too, but not as bad


Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.


Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Mikey B.'s Comment
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I have to say Johnathan, trucking is definitely NOT for you but have you considered a career in politics? You have an unusually high degree of skill in blaming others for your shortcomings and admitting no blame of your own. You have blamed everyone in the world but the one person that should be blamed, yourself. You could literally crap you pants and find a way to blame Fruit of the Loom, having hate for them the rest of your life for it. How you don't see how pathetic that is is truly beyond me.

I must agree, it is scary as hell to think someone like you is now in charge of our children's safety.

Not a single incident you have mentioned is anyone's fault but your own, not Werners, not your trainer, not the CDL school, not people in cars, not your aunt Edna, not Toad the Wet Sprocket, not the lady pushing freight on your rollers, not the company that made the rollers...everything mentioned was entirely YOUR FAULT and YOU FAILED.

I'd say you, not Werner was the one competing in mental gymnastics, you sound (going by what you yourself have posted) like a horrible, horrible nightmare of incompetence and ineptitude, a nightmare of an employee that no employer wants to find out they hired.

Your financial problems are of your own making, stop blaming Werner, its pathetic. You need to start looking into the mirror when you wonder why things are going wrong, stop playing the blame game. It may make you feel better but you have to know deep down that everyone else and everything else in the world is not the problem....YOU ARE. I'd seriously recommend counseling are a prerequisite for driving a busload of children. SMMFH.


Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.


Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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My $0.02 For people considering trucking, read these forums. Pour through the Diaries Section. In that section you will get first hand knowledge of what training is like. You will see we all have the same problems.

Your attitude will determine your success or failure. In school you may have to speak up for yourself. When on your trainer's truck and driving, you can pull into a rest area or truck stop to use the bathroom. Your trainer might berate you, talk down to you, call you names and yell at you. These things happen. Speak up for yourself and remember you're only on your trainer's truck for a short time. The real learning starts when you're on your own.

There is nobody to hold your hand in trucking. You are on your own. Wether you make or break it is mostly up to you.

Good luck.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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I'd suggest that Jonathan get a job driving a prison bus. Then he could haul around people who have similar dysfunctional attitudes.

Papa Pig's Comment
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Werner and training is like any other large company. They give their trainers guidance but can’t oversee everything that is done. Some trainers are good and some are bad. I was fortunate that mine was great. I assure you Werner wants you to be safe and wants you to be successful.I have personally seen them give good drivers numerous chances AND retraining after mistakes. On my account if a driver has more than one accident they will send them out with a mentor again to see what the issue is. 2 things will prevent this. Gross negligence (the type of accident that proves you either dont GAF or won’t get it) or you haven’t been improving as you go. Missed appointments, doing your own thing , etc. they understand when people Are new and give you them time to adjust. I have personally seen them go out of their way to keep people on the account who have caused 10s of thousands of $$. And I’m sure a lot of the bigger companies do the same thing.

With the plethora of information that is out there on YouTube and other internet sites if you took that job and didn’t know what you were getting into then that is on you and ONLY you. It won’t tell you everything about it but you seem to have went into it like a “babe in the woods”I’m sorry but adults do research. On your next career move I would suggest you try it. I never touched a family dollar trailer but knew it wasn’t for me because I didn’t want to touch every case in the trailer.

I forgot who made the statement about companies preying on new drivers to do dollar accounts but I don’t think I really agree with that statement. Someone has to do it and experienced door swingers aren’t jumping at it. Most folks are happy to just drive. And that’s ok But the freight Has to get out someway 🤷🏻‍♂️. Not a perfect scenario but what are the alternatives.

Mikey B.'s Comment
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Wait a minute....are we being punked? Good job Brett and moderators, I figured it out. Johnathan isn't real, y'all just started this under a new account to see what our reactions would be, right? There's no way that much BS could be coming from one person, not even our resident troll so y'all conspired to invent this guy. You had me going up until "If Werner was such a great company, they could've been bothered to TELL me how to use a load bar, instead of making me look like an idiot in front of the customer."

That was pretty good, invent someone like this character, invent some ignorant situations that nobody in their right mind could see as anyone's fault BUT the OP and continually blame the company, the customer, the citizens, the equipment, the school, the trainer etc etc and with each post make the stupidity worse and worse till the situations got WAYYYYYYY past the point of stupidity and ineptitude that there's no possible way a person could actually be like that. Good job. But you gave it away with the load bar, literally a 5 year old could figure out how to use one, then still blame the company for not teaching you how to use one, so that was the point of unbelievability. HAHAHAHAHA very funny guys. Trolling this site with a made up person, ya had me going. I'm calling BS though as there's literally no way someone could be as bad as you make this character out to be. Hahaha, good one. Then after making this character look bad to the point of questioned mental competence you make him to be driving a school bus full of children, (oh the humanity), yeah, good one indeed. rofl-2.gif rofl-1.gif rofl-3.gif smile.gif rofl-2.gif

Old School's Comment
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You haven't been punked. I'm still scratching my head over the load bar comment too. It's just bazaar. I thought about not even allowing Jonathan a voice in here, but I thought it might be helpful for some of the new folks in here to see how some folks try to start their trucking careers and then can't understand why they can't find employment in a career that is begging for drivers.

You just can't fake it as a trucker. You either figure out how to do the job or you wash out. This career is performance based. Most of it we figure out and learn as we go. You will never cover everything in training. How you go through a month with a trainer and never learn how a load bar works is beyond me. I had a terrible trainer, but dang it if I wanted to know how to do something I asked some questions. I have a feeling Jonathan never took ownership of his own training. He wasn't inquisitive or seemingly even interested. He certainly could have asked his trainer, "Hey, how does this thing work?"


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PackRat's Comment
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This one does nothing but hurt my head trying to read.

Don't believe it readers, because this is far from reality. Some just can't make it, and some don't want to make it.

Brandie W.'s Comment
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The entire internet at your fingers-- a literal cornucopia of education and knowledge... and its someone else's fault.

Got it.

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