C.R. England Nightmare Experience (True Story, Need Help! Nondrug User Tested Positive!)

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Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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In your original post you asked...

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What can I do?

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Kal 'el;

IMHO, you've NOT been a 'waste' of anyone's time. Somehow, with all you've been through; I do believe that when you get this sorted out and it's all resolute, your conundrum can & will be a help, to future drivers, stopping in here.

Please keep sharing your (unfortunate) journey. Let us know how your DAC comes back (you can get a free one from HireRight) DAC History Report, and what the protocol/enrollment, etc . . . entails with the S.A.P. program you'll be entering.

Thanks, and always best wishes;

~ Anne ~

ps; Again, I'm sorry. I've got empathy, as I mentioned, re: my late ex husband. I'm closer to your plight than many/most. Mine ended otherwise, however.

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Update: Got my CDL yesterday and will be working by the end of the month for a damn good company driving OTR. All the nay sayers obviously didn't take Karma in to play. Somebody up there was looking out for me after all and my career will move forward despite the positive test that I did not earn. As I said before, nothing is going to stop me from achieving my goals. :)

Kal'el;

So glad you stopped by. IYRC, I was never a naysayer. If I don't look at the light; I'll only see dark, myself. I'm a glass half full person; gotta be.

I'm glad you came back to share. Thank you. Keep up the plight, we NEED positive follow ups like yours, on here!

Jus'me;

~ Anne ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Pete B.'s Comment
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Great job, way to persevere and see it through. Good luck with your new career; I hope you find this endeavor and lifestyle rewarding and satisfying.

Kal-el T.'s Comment
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@Ann

I honestly would not have come back if not for you. Thank you very much for not judging. :)

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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@Ann

I honestly would not have come back if not for you. Thank you very much for not judging. :)

Awhh! My name doesn't start with 'J' or 'G' .. so, who am 'i' to judge, ya know?

Most welcome, good sir.

I'm just 'me.' Gotta be.

TYSM! Keep us (me!) in the loop.

~ Anne ~

George B.'s Comment
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I have not commented on this post so far. Have you ever touched adderal? It shows up the same in urine tests. My wife almost died two years ago b/c her immune system was shot plus alcoholism. It pains me to even bring it up. She took adderal and her tox screen showed amphetamines. Which adderal is. However her family assumed it was meth. At the time I was using a bit--100% off the drug now. Please no judgement. I was blamed etc. Her dr also stated if smoked she could have traces in her system if in the same room. If a small amount was slipped into a beverage consistently its a viable excuse. However no company trucking or other is going to give 2 s$$ts what your reason is. It would take the person who did it to openly admit to it and that would be a long shot. I hope you can move forward and fullfill your dream. God bless!

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Kal-el T.'s Comment
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I have not commented on this post so far. Have you ever touched adderal? It shows up the same in urine tests. My wife almost died two years ago b/c her immune system was shot plus alcoholism. It pains me to even bring it up. She took adderal and her tox screen showed amphetamines. Which adderal is. However her family assumed it was meth. At the time I was using a bit--100% off the drug now. Please no judgement. I was blamed etc. Her dr also stated if smoked she could have traces in her system if in the same room. If a small amount was slipped into a beverage consistently its a viable excuse. However no company trucking or other is going to give 2 s$$ts what your reason is. It would take the person who did it to openly admit to it and that would be a long shot. I hope you can move forward and fullfill your dream. God bless!

Yeah, none of that would apply to me. I refuse to put any medications in my body unless I get an extreme headache. Advil only. I am extremely picky about what I put in to my body. But in the end, it all worked out, so I am a very happy man these days and all those worries have been lifted.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
George B.'s Comment
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Good to hear. Hammer down!

Victor C. II's Comment
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I believe you! Although I know many on here can be pious and quite frankly go off of assumptions I know that people do people dirty. I would contest it first with DataQ from FMCSA or find a firm to get it off your DAC. At least you did not refuse to do it. I think she was holding a grudge against you and did it.

Keeping you in my prayers man!

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How can you be living for 2 years with someone addicted to meth and not know it?

As far as driving, you are probably not going to get hired . You should look for another profession until you can put your positive test behind you.

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I had my suspicions, but I don't throw accusations until I have the facts. Also, she is not a tweaker, she is a nurse by profession, she knows how to hide it. i won't be giving up trying to get in to a new school. I have come too far to just give up. I never gave up at anything.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Victor C. II's Comment
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Who are you driving with Kal el?

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I have not commented on this post so far. Have you ever touched adderal? It shows up the same in urine tests. My wife almost died two years ago b/c her immune system was shot plus alcoholism. It pains me to even bring it up. She took adderal and her tox screen showed amphetamines. Which adderal is. However her family assumed it was meth. At the time I was using a bit--100% off the drug now. Please no judgement. I was blamed etc. Her dr also stated if smoked she could have traces in her system if in the same room. If a small amount was slipped into a beverage consistently its a viable excuse. However no company trucking or other is going to give 2 s$$ts what your reason is. It would take the person who did it to openly admit to it and that would be a long shot. I hope you can move forward and fullfill your dream. God bless!

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Yeah, none of that would apply to me. I refuse to put any medications in my body unless I get an extreme headache. Advil only. I am extremely picky about what I put in to my body. But in the end, it all worked out, so I am a very happy man these days and all those worries have been lifted.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Victor C. II's Comment
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I think its the truth plain and simple. People who are angry with people especially in relationships will do dirty deeds to get back at their ex spouse.

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I'm not disputing your statement but isnt that mostly/entirely for DOT tests? I'm legitimately asking as I don't know

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Travis, it's a good question. The fact is no legitimate trucking company hires people who have failed a drug test. They don't really care if it was a D.O.T. pee test or not. There is a question on the federal paperwork that asks, "Have you ever failed a drug test?" How is the OP going to answer that one. He's honest. He's gone out of his way to make sure we understand that.

The reason so many trucking companies are doing non D.O.T. testing is so they can keep people from gaming the system. They are willing to spend extra money to guard themselves against unwanted liabilities. Proof of a SAP program is the only thing that will induce them to hire someone who has failed a drug test, and even that does not force them to do so. A failed drug test (whether D.O.T. or not) is as much a trucking career killer as a rollover accident. In fact it may be worse.

We can empathize with our friend here, but his options are very limited. We have no idea of the veracity of his tale, but we've taken his story and advised the best we know how.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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