Self Driving Semis

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Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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Not to mention, I want to retain Chief Brody as my attorney for when I get hit by one of those self driving trucks. I’m going to sue the software developer, anyone and everyone involved in the hardware side and installation, the manufacturer of the truck who allowed it to be installed and the company using those trucks in their fleet. After that lawsuit, you can say goodbye to self driving trucks for quite a while until significant leaps forward are made in the technology required to make it worthwhile.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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Back to “lack of infrastructure”. The basic systems we have now fail at the slightest bit of rain and/or snow.

Davy A.'s Comment
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Embark is scheduled to deliver the first batch of self driving trucks to Knight by end of the year.

Also CH Robinson is working with one of the major self driving companies, just google tbat to find the exact company

They are. Even though I think we are years away from it being successful, It still disgusts me. Embark's sole purpose is to set up fully autonomous trucks. While I disagree with it, eventually it will become prevalent. There are several groups and some politicians that are helping fight this, as they should. Obviously the safety concerns alone are catastrophic. Missouri has legislation pending that will ban the sale, distribution and operation of autonomous trucks in the state, its expected to pass. A few other states are working on it.

The one benefit I could see in testing them is to compile intel and recon on their vulnerabilities and general workings so that we can exploit these and develop strategies to fight their proliferation.

Basically although the systems will be inherently unsafe and dangerous as well as inefficient and ineffective, I believe that the federal government will attempt to manipulate the industry to use them through coercive methods and incentives just as they have with the EV market. They will allow them a free pass in all but the most egregious incidents. They will offer giant tax savings for them, and subsidies their use to offset costs. They will encourage the companies to roll them out early, knowing full well they are a safety hazard. Only the court of public opinion will help after enough suburban families are killed as a result of them being on the highway, ultimately the public will not accept them after time.

Why do I think that the government will do this? Because as a whole, drivers are largely anti establishment, anti government and conservative leaning, even foreign nationals are largely patriotic after discovering a level of freedom here they didnt have in their home countries. We are the Achilles heel of an over bloated, rouge central government that seems hell bent on extinguishing personal freedom. They have witnessed where drivers have succeeded in stopping a government and bringing it to its knees in a very short time period, recently. Although the convoy here has not garnered much attention, the quality of life isnt too bad at the moment. Rest assured though, that had the lunacy of the leftists persisted and we had ongoing shutdowns, mandates and intrusions on our rights, truckers could bring the nation to a standstill in a matter of days. It is not in the statists interest to have the entire infrastructure in an affinity group's hands with little or no control over it. The only way for them to remove that threat is to remove the driver from the equation as much as possible, as soon as possible.

Ask yourself, is it not to far fetched to see the federal government push for outcomes that serve its interests but are generally bad for the populace?

OWI:

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DJames's Comment
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Matthew, what year do you have in mind as that in which self driving trucks will start to displace OTR drivers?

Interesting. I 'd like to make a friendly bet on it.

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Automated Trucks. It is coming. Sorry if that goes against"conventional wisdom. Tech is already out there and improving.

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I'm sorry, but you've been snowed by the tech evangelists. Old School is right. Autonomous trucking is making billions of dollars for startup companies as the big corporations buy anything these fools put out. Why? They're afraid of being left behind. Self-driving tech isn't within 25 years of making an impact on this industry. At this point, it's a marketing gimmick. If we were serious about self-driving vehicles we would be installing the infrastructure needed to support it. No one is even seriously discussing such an investment, let alone building anything.

I wrote this article nearly five years ago, and every word holds true today:

Self Driving Trucks Are Not Coming Anytime Soon

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OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

G-Town's Comment
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Bumping this...

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Automated Trucks. It is coming. Sorry if that goes against"conventional wisdom. Tech is already out there and improving.

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I'm sorry, but you've been snowed by the tech evangelists. Old School is right. Autonomous trucking is making billions of dollars for startup companies as the big corporations buy anything these fools put out. Why? They're afraid of being left behind. Self-driving tech isn't within 25 years of making an impact on this industry. At this point, it's a marketing gimmick. If we were serious about self-driving vehicles we would be installing the infrastructure needed to support it. No one is even seriously discussing such an investment, let alone building anything.

I wrote this article nearly five years ago, and every word holds true today:

Self Driving Trucks Are Not Coming Anytime Soon

Bruce K.'s Comment
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We can send spacecraft to the moon and Mars but can’t keep highways in good shape. Sometimes driving on The interstate system makes me wonder if NASA could use certain places to launch trucks and drivers into earth orbit.

Self driving trucks? I already have one. It’s my truck driven by my ‘self’.

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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We can send spacecraft to the moon and Mars but can’t keep highways in good shape. Sometimes driving on The interstate system makes me wonder if NASA could use certain places to launch trucks and drivers into earth orbit.

Self driving trucks? I already have one. It’s my truck driven by my ‘self’.

And we can't even CHANGE our name to BK and not show up as the 'newer' Bruce K. on the website.

Yeah, so much for infallible 'tech!'

(I'll email the guys again, BK!)

~ Anne ~

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

PackRat's Comment
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The Interstates will all be smooth pavement in Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois before anything self driving happens with tractor trailers, outside of publicity runs for the media. Hell, the self checkout kiosk for showers at most TAs doesn't function 50% of the time, but "soon" trucks will be driving themselves?

Okay, on the count of three, everyone holds their breath...

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

JakeBreak's Comment
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I was just thinking today, this whole self driving truck thing reminds me of the CNG trucks. Back then everyone was saying CNG was the way to go and soon all the trucks would be powered by CNG. They got enough people interested that they got some stations put in, and even got a couple fleets to buy some trucks. Those fleets don't run those trucks very often anymore and I think they got rid of most of them. I think this self driving thing will be the same way. People are all hyped up for it and when a couple fleets actually try it they will find its more trouble than it's worth and abandon it.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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The Interstates will all be smooth pavement in Indiana, Michigan, and Illinois before anything self driving happens with tractor trailers, outside of publicity runs for the media. Hell, the self checkout kiosk for showers at most TAs doesn't function 50% of the time, but "soon" trucks will be driving themselves?

Okay, on the count of three, everyone holds their breath...

Awh, MAN! I did.. nobody saved me.... but my puppers. (Maybe it WAS Mucho Poocho, BK's doggo?!?!?) Idk.. I was trying to come to life. I 'USED' to hold my breath for LONG times, (then I got old!)

~ Anne ~

ps: Back to the 'original' topic; pretty sure i've 'sleuthed' it out. (Oh yeah, and the subtopic re: Bruce K.!) Thanks,O/S!

a.) I'm not Brett.

b.) Old School is not Brett.

c.) If Brett stays in the shadows.. we got this!

d.) SELF DRIVING SEMIS WILL NEVER HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, as mentioned above!

Peace, y'all.

~ Anne & Tom ~

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

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