Applying For Jobs- No Drug Test From Previous Employer

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John G.'s Comment
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Good morning,

I am applying for JB Hunt Intermodal and the lady is asking me for paperwork from my previous employer.

The only thing is my previous employer is an owner operator , and he never drug tested me. She is asking for paperwork for a DOT drug test

I told her I didn't get one from him and she said she will note it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

John

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Intermodal:

Transporting freight using two or more transportation modes. An example would be freight that is moved by truck from the shipper's dock to the rail yard, then placed on a train to the next rail yard, and finally returned to a truck for delivery to the receiving customer.

In trucking when you hear someone refer to an intermodal job they're normally talking about hauling shipping containers to and from the shipyards and railyards.

PackRat's Comment
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How long did you work for the previous employer? You were never asked to submit a pre-employment drug screening there (illegal), nor any random samples?

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

John G.'s Comment
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I worked for him for 3 months. Never asked for a drug test. It's illegal to ask for one?

I had one other job I applied for ask for some official documentation for a drug test and I just told them I don't have it. I told JB hunt some BS "i got one from my other employeer (a shop I worked at)" because they seem stricter.

How long did you work for the previous employer? You were never asked to submit a pre-employment drug screening there (illegal), nor any random samples?

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Old School's Comment
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Your trucking employer is supposed to drug test you. That's what PackRat means is illegal. You weren't drug tested.

It's no big deal at this point. It doesn't really affect your ability to get hired at J.B. Hunt. If they are interested in you they'll test you and hire you.

PackRat's Comment
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Yep. This is another example of why it can be best to stay away from employment situations like working for an individual. "I'll pay you to drive my truck....cash paid at the end of the day..."

It's great until it's not.

John G.'s Comment
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Gotcha, thanks. I also had to explain that he paid me under the table, but at the same time, I was grateful for the experience.

I guess I will tell them that I didn't take the drug test then?

Overall, I am in a good situation- I will be paid over the summer regardless of which trucking job I get- I work as a school teacher and my contract ends over the summer. Then, I will have to figure out if I want to drive or teach full time.

Do y'all have any opinions over my choices?

I got offered a dedicated route from DFW to Kansas City with Dart. I will be home one or two days during the week and some weeknds. Here, I will get experience doing OTR

I may get a local JB Intermodal Job- I have watched videos on this- It looks like you take 53' containers to different customers. I like the idea of being home and the odd hours. They told me I would start my shift at 5:00 PM- I love the idea of working into the night and have never had a chance to do it yet

My other option is a Pepsi Local (non delivery) job. I am speaking with a lady about this job this afternoon. Don't know anything about it (yet)

Dedicated Route:

A driver or carrier who transports cargo between regular, prescribed routes. Normally it means a driver will be dedicated to working for one particular customer like Walmart or Home Depot and they will only haul freight for that customer. You'll often hear drivers say something like, "I'm on the Walmart dedicated account."

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Intermodal:

Transporting freight using two or more transportation modes. An example would be freight that is moved by truck from the shipper's dock to the rail yard, then placed on a train to the next rail yard, and finally returned to a truck for delivery to the receiving customer.

In trucking when you hear someone refer to an intermodal job they're normally talking about hauling shipping containers to and from the shipyards and railyards.

G-Town's Comment
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I’d bet you were running uninsured too... no proof of employment other than someone’s word.

I’ll put an exclamation on what PackRat said... lots of shady characters running slightly below the radar,

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I’d bet you were running uninsured too

I would be shocked if he was....

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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How long did you work for the previous employer? You were never asked to submit a pre-employment drug screening there (illegal), nor any random samples?

Good morning,

I am applying for JB Hunt Intermodal and the lady is asking me for paperwork from my previous employer.

The only thing is my previous employer is an owner operator , and he never drug tested me. She is asking for paperwork for a DOT drug test

I told her I didn't get one from him and she said she will note it.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

John

Howdy, John G. !

Good to see ya back, sir.

Does your previous company appear here? (It's a little tricky to use... go to the bottom, middle box.. and do a search, then make sure you search by 'name' unless you KNEW the DOT #'s.) FMCSA/Safer Web Search.

Also, if he 'did' test you (without your knowledge; though chances are slim, unless they 'forged' you in...) Look into the FMCSA drug clearinghouse, here: FMCSA Drug Clearinghouse.

Finally, do you have a DAC report, from 'ever?' Obtain a FREE copy of your DAC, HireRight.

Oh, whoops! One more: Get a $10.00 cc of your PSP if you can; Pre Employment Screening Program.

Hope this helps; PLEASE add your state .. at least!

~ Anne ~

ps: The guys above are so correct; you're an 'accident' waiting...sadly. Not even your fault.

If the lady at JBH won't take you on, here's this....

Go real : Apply For Paid CDL Training

and/or : Apply For Truck Driving Jobs

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Intermodal:

Transporting freight using two or more transportation modes. An example would be freight that is moved by truck from the shipper's dock to the rail yard, then placed on a train to the next rail yard, and finally returned to a truck for delivery to the receiving customer.

In trucking when you hear someone refer to an intermodal job they're normally talking about hauling shipping containers to and from the shipyards and railyards.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Banks's Comment
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I've never worked for JB Hunt, but from what I've seen it looks like they own and maintain their own chassis units. That's a good thing because the ones the rail own usually suck.

I did work for Pepsi for about 2 months and I quit because safety wanted me to wear 2 masks and safety glasses over my prescription glasses because of COVID. I wasn't going to do that and definitely not in April or may when it's warm out and you're doing a physical job.

The company is ok, the equipment isn't great (I saw a lot of violations) and it involves a lot of physical labor and a lot of FML backing situations. They operate 40 feet trailers and I had to do a lot of backing off the street, a lot of squeezing between Werner and fences and a lot of blind side backing. My backing did improve a lot. Probably the only positive out of that situation.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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