Rule Exemptions
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PJ, that kinda relates to what a friend of mine told me. He teaches at a Roadmaster school in Georgia
I didn’t completely understand what he was telling me (heck, HE didn’t even understand it completely); but he said they were going to get trained on teaching a new method to the driving skills part of the test where the “pad” part of the test would combine everything into one maneuver. He already thought the change was stupid. But it sounded a lot like what you are saying about making it easier to obtain a CDL.
There must be some powerful special interests lobbying the FMCSA to relax qualification standards.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
I’m pretty sure this is already how it is in Illinois and has been. I went through a private school back in 2015 and passed all the portions the first try. But I remember a student got to the road test the first try and failed. When he came back he just had to the retake the road test but failed again the second time. Passed the third time.
The new rules definitely dummy down this test. PA's door and fuel section is only like 5 or 6 items on the pretrip. The backing is straight line and offset only.
At Prime at all terminals we only retook the portion of the test we had failed. However, that only lasts.for a certain amount of time. If someone passed pretrip but failed backing....they couldnt just take the back and driving 6.months later The test scores dont last that long. Without reading the article, i am not exactly sure what FL is asking.
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
I’m pretty sure this is already how it is in Illinois and has been. I went through a private school back in 2015 and passed all the portions the first try. But I remember a student got to the road test the first try and failed. When he came back he just had to the retake the road test but failed again the second time. Passed the third time.
Yep, same thing happened when I was in school. He stalled the truck and only had to retake driving portion.
This is the way they do it in Massachussetts as well,divided into 3 blocks...pre-trip/brakes...backing maneuvers...road test
The CDL test is taken with the 3 parts in order (pretrip, skills, and road). You must pass one before moving to the next. If at some point along the line should you fail one, you may come back and restart with the failed portion and not have to retake what you have passed (when you fail 3 times and then you start all over). What Florida wants to do is when you show up for your test and fail pretrip, they want to continue on with the next part of the test right then and there and worry about the pretrip portion later(next visit).
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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This morning I ran across an article where the state of Florida has applied to FMCSA for an exemption in cdl testing procedures.
They are basically asking if anyone fails a part of the test to have them come back later and retake only the failed portion.
Currently testing is done in 3 blocks pretrip, controls, and on the road. If you fail any portion the test is stopped and the student must come back later and retake the entire test.
They say this will make them more efficient and help students.
I’m old fashioned I guess. This seems to me to be lessening the requirements once again making it easier to get a cdl.
Stats show crashes increase every year despite all the rules they claim will reduce them. And yet here we go with easing of rules for convience to some.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.