I Was Fired From Pam Transport For A 90 Day Minor Safty Now I Cant Get A Job Anywhere

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BK's Comment
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So, Stacie, now it’s up to you to push through this unfortunate situation and get on to another job. You will be a better driver when you do that, just based on what input you have gotten here, especially from Old School.

If this same thing had happened 5 or 6 years ago, it would have been easier to land another job. But now you’re caught in a bad market for drivers. Therefore, it may take some time before you are back on the road but eventually it will happen. You said you tried the big carriers so try to find a smaller one, of which there are many, like Helwig. Have you tried Tribe? Don’t give up. You will get started again with increased awareness of your job.

PJ's Comment
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I’m not so sure your biggest problem is the termination. It may be your contract. There have been plenty of lawsuits over people in a contract getting hired at other companies.

This is different, they let you go instead of you trying to go elsewhere, I have no idea how that plays out with the current case law on the books.

Apply everywhere and keep trying. Look at craigslist and want ads. Try to avoid 1099 companies though.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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Question 1: how did they know you blew thru the stop sign? Did you get a hard brake event and trip a dash cam or something?

Question 2: are you saying "i was fired for safety"?

Saying you were fired for "safety" means nothing to me. Each company uses different terminology. Fired for "safety" sounds to me to be any unsafe action... could be reckless driving... backing with the drivers door open... not using 3 points of contact while getting out of truck... not doing pretrips...carrying a weapon on the truck...knocking a trailer door off... wearing flip flops...threatening another driver...

See what i am getting at? You are leaving it to their imagination.

At prime we use "critical event" to explain hard braking, not enough following distance, taking a turn too fast, speeding downhill. If it was a hard brake, tell them that. Or tell them you misjudged the stopping distance required for the stop sign.

Changing the wording to a better description may make a difference

As for Pam... all mega carriers get sued constantly... they have deep pockets so make easy targets. 95% of drivers never get through the first year. My class had 76. 3 of us were left a year later. By the 2nd year only me. The other 2 were fired for accidents and drinking.

And your record is not spotless. You have what we at prime call a preventable "incident" by clipping the cab extender and the hard brake critical event.

Although I commend you on driving through NJ (my home state) and 30,000 miles.... that is not as impressive as you may think. Prime would have you do twice as much in training. You are expected to be able to drive through NJ. You are a professional driver. That's the job.

Keep applying and ask your school for help. Dont they have lifetime placement at CDL schools?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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There is also the issue with being a Florida resident living in Tampa, which narrows the options even further.

Pianoman's Comment
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I was a hard time believing this story at first until Stacey mentioned the part about companies turning her down the moment she tells them she was “fired for safety.” It all makes sense after that statement.

I have firsthand experience with this having been fired a few years ago for a safety issue. Most companies wouldn’t touch me immediately afterward simply because i was fired for “safety.” It didn’t matter to them what I did…it was simply an insurance thing. They couldn’t hire me until I had worked elsewhere for at least 6 months. I suspect Stacie is running into the same issue. Unfortunately you combine that with the fact she has very little experience in general and the freight market currently sucks, and you end up with a situation where she’s up **** creek without a paddle.

Stacie, you can try being more specific like Kearsey said and it might make a difference. It’s worth a shot for sure. I suspect it won’t help. The only thing you can do in my opinion is simply continue to apply everywhere until you find something and then stick with it for a bare minimum of at least six months so you’ll be hireable other places again.

Of course this is all assuming you’re giving us the full picture. If there is any other information like old DUI’s, company policy violations, truck abandonment, etc, that would be helpful to know when offering advice but I’m going to assume you’re giving us everything we need to give good advice.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

RealDiehl's Comment
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Stacie S.'s Comment
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So I will put exactly the reason I was fired to the full extent of what I tell every company and I have video evidence because I had my own dashcam that is set on record and deletes every 7 days. and then I will put the full situation after because I dont underplay the event when applying like some may think.

So when applying I put =(1 non-preventable accident in Fort Smith, in at a shipper called Viking Yard Shipping incorrect address on Qualcom pulled into the drop yard and had to leave while leaving I crimped the driver-side wing of the truck and broke a rivet off. at fault,yes /ticket no, injuries, no violations no,was truck towed,no repairs needed ,no)

=second (Non-preventable accident safety cleared ... Macys drop yard in PA while dropping trailer ground sank in on-road truck became stuck while docking. at fault,no, ticket,no injuries,no was truck towed yes , repairs needed, no

=(Reason for leaving, termination, reason Failed to yield at a stop sign in the company yard.)

that is my record that is the 2 negatives on my resume period these are the only incidents I had. The first happened on day 1 on my first load. second, happened 6 and a half months later. the non-perventable one happened in December and there was nothing that could have been done it was a rainy day and the yard was gravel resulting in the truck with 30 tons sinking in the docking spot. I was cleared by safety I did everything correctly I have the full documentation and pictures

Now the full point of termination. I was in my company yard they had a stop sign placed behind a bunch of trailers and trees. everyone on the yard pulls past the stop sign because you cannot see anything where the sign is placed. so you have to pull a bit after the sign and stop. stop and check if any yard trucks are coming. I did what I have done and everyone on the yard does and it follows. I pulled a bit past the stop sign about to where the sign was visible in the passenger window to the head of the trailer that was blocking all view in order to see and stop. company records everything on their dashcam. safety called me in a week later I was fired no chance auto-termination.

this is my full situation this is what happened

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Rob T.'s Comment
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Now the full point of termination. I was in my company yard they had a stop sign placed behind a bunch of trailers and trees. everyone on the yard pulls past the stop sign because you cannot see anything where the sign is placed. so you have to pull a bit after the sign and stop. stop and check if any yard trucks are coming. I did what I have done and everyone on the yard does and it follows. I pulled a bit past the stop sign about to where the sign was visible in the passenger window to the head of the trailer that was blocking all view in order to see and stop. company records everything on their dashcam. safety called me in a week later I was fired no chance auto-termination.

In that instance stop BEHIND the stop sign. THEN creep forward as needed to see and proceed when safe.

Hogan is hiring out of Plant City. Job linkI've not worked there but worked with a guy that nobody would touch due to termination for safety. He claims drive cam came loose and was hitting windshield so he unhooked it to not break window.

Most companies will be willing to hire you after 6 months of safe driving elsewhere after termination for safety.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

BK's Comment
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To Rob’s point, I saw this recently at a Walmart DC.

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NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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The proper procedure is in fact stop short of the stop sign, THEN creep slowly until you can safely continue.

We joke about dumb signs, but how often does something have to happen, before they put up more signs?

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