Being A Trainee At Prime Is An Awful Experience.

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Indalecio's Comment
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First let me say,

Prime itself is an excellent company. Never seen a company so willing to do things just to make it's employee's a little hapier. The problem is not them, it's the fact that there last phase of training forces you to share a truck with a random owner operator for two months.

It is awful.They don't care about their own health and make no time to do anything for it. I will want to take 45 min to exercise but he doesn't want to make time for that due to the load being due, but then will sit on the phone talking for an hour while doing nothing.

I've informed him numerous times that I can't sleep when the heat is blasting, but he blast it anyway. Then when it's my turn to drive he'll turn off my a/c and make me drive with heat on. So I'm sleepy from being overheated at night and miserable while driving also.

Curses constantly and I hate profanity. Talks to me like a child, even though he drives awful swerving and hitting lines. I rarely do that.

There are so many things, but I'm afraid to get a different trainer because he could be worse, because my psd trainer was worse . He actively TRIED to make me miserable including trying to coerce me into drinking and smoking, neither of which I do.

I'm only two weeks in and im wondering if I have the strength to make it another 2 months will dirty arrogant trucker aholes.

Ugh

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Kyle B.'s Comment
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First let me say,

Prime itself is an excellent company. Never seen a company so willing to do things just to make it's employee's a little hapier. The problem is not them, it's the fact that there last phase of training forces you to share a truck with a random owner operator for two months.

It is awful.They don't care about their own health and make no time to do anything for it. I will want to take 45 min to exercise but he doesn't want to make time for that due to the load being due, but then will sit on the phone talking for an hour while doing nothing.

I've informed him numerous times that I can't sleep when the heat is blasting, but he blast it anyway. Then when it's my turn to drive he'll turn off my a/c and make me drive with heat on. So I'm sleepy from being overheated at night and miserable while driving also.

Curses constantly and I hate profanity. Talks to me like a child, even though he drives awful swerving and hitting lines. I rarely do that.

There are so many things, but I'm afraid to get a different trainer because he could be worse, because my pad was worse . He actively TRIED to make me miserable including trying to coerce me into drinking and smoking, neither of which I do.

I'm only two weeks in and im wondering if I have the strength to make it another 2 months will dirty arrogant trucker aholes.

Ugh

I would get a new trainer expressly if he tried to get you into something your not comfortable with. Before ever saying yes to a trainer get to know them. You’ll thank me later

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Indelacio takes a chance:

The last phase of training forces you to share a truck with a random owner operator for two months.

Your trainer is not "random". Your trainer has been trained on how to help a newbie get the hang of truck operations and safety.

Now, many O/Os take on trainees. And many company drivers do this, too. Most do their job, and their apprentice learns about the business. But a few do it for the money. The trainees get trainee pay, and the owner gets that mileage. For free!!

You are one of the unlucky ones. Call the office, tell them how you were victimized by this guy and ask to be switched.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Goner's Comment
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The title of this thread is extremely misleading. You cleaned it up a bit by saying glowing things about Prime as a company. Yet you failed to label this thread as YOUR prime training experience being "an awful experience". I find it difficult to feel sorry for you. You chose to go out with a smoker even though you don't smoke. As far as drinking & smoking? Look if it's illegal or not, wrong or not is not for me to say. You chose to go out with this guy! Didn't you ask for a non smoking trainer? Didn't your read any of the diaries with the horror stories about their trainers? Like Kyle said, you can remedy this very simply by asking for a new trainer & the reasons for your need to do this. You have a very easy choice in front of you, you can suck it up for however long it takes for you to finish this part of the process or you can roll the dice & ask for a new NON-SMOKING trainer. You're half way to getting your first seat status, weigh your options & see it through. Good luck! God bless & stay safe.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Kyle B.'s Comment
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If your dun refuses contact Jason seymour he will have your back

Big Scott (CFI's biggest 's Comment
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The trainer he's with is not the drinker, smoker. You are with Prime, they will put you with another trainer. Contact them. Also, remember, you are only on a trainer's truck for a short time. It's important to learn all you can. If you are in TNT and teaming you will have to get your exercise while in the bunk with the truck rolling. If you you don't have your CDL yet, you have a 10 hour break to exercise. Every trainer will have at least one thing you will have to look past to get through training. Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Turtle's Comment
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The title of your post is a ridiculous and completely untrue statement. Maybe you're having a hard time, but you do realize thousands upon thousands upon thousands of drivers have successfully completed the training program, and enjoyed doing it.

Did you not research this at all? Did you not know you'd be living with another human being inside their truck for up to a couple of months? What did you expect? Snacks, playtime, and a blankie for nap time?

Sure, maybe you got a bad apple. But there are untold numbers of good professional trainers at Prime who turn out one successful student after another. You need to grow some thicker skin if you want to make it in this business. Whining will serve no purpose.

There are several things you can do. You have separate heat/AC controls in your bunk. Close the curtain and set them up the way you want, regardless of what he says. When it's your shift to drive, set the cab temperature the way you want. If he changes it, let him go to sleep and then change it back. You are the captain of that vessel when you are driving. If he does things that make you unsafe, then it's your responsibility to report that to Prime. If enough trainees complain to Prime, then that trainer will change his ways or cease to train.

Exercise on your time, not the trucks time. Why would you expect that truck to sit just so you can do a little exercise? For that matter, you may have to change your ways a little but you can exercise while that truck is rolling.

The big picture here is that training is but a tiny fraction of time compared to a lifetime career of truck driving. If you're 2 weeks into it and already questioning your ability to handle it, maybe trucking isn't for you. But don't blame it on Prime. That's on you.

PackRat's Comment
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Did the OP ever think about this: maybe the trainer feels the same way about you, the student? Real easy to fix the situation by requesting a different trainer.

Indalecio's Comment
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Lol. If a mod could delete this thread due to the improper title that's be great. Thanks

G-Town's Comment
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Lol. If a mod could delete this thread due to the improper title that's be great. Thanks

You should concede before you earn yourself a lifetime ban.

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