A Strong Case For Much Better Needed Trucker Security And The Laxing Of Gun Laws Nationwide.

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Susan D. 's Comment
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One time, years ago,y other half was trying to find an address where he was supposed to deliver a load to in the middle of the night. There wasn't any traffic and he's just creeping down the street in his truck, shining a high powered flashlight looking for signs indicating the entrance to the customer. A police officer came by and asked him what he was doing. His response, "I just robbed a bank and this is my getaway vehicle. The cop just busted out laughing and then gave him directions to the truck entrance gate. So there ya go.. get away vehicle hahaha.

I have NEVER felt unsafe anywhere except for a Ford drop lot (Stony island anyone?) In Chicago. They don't allow drivers to overnight there, security is armed and locked in a steel box type of thing with a bank vault style door, and my company let me violate my HOS to leave because it was getting dark. They routinely have gang killings out there and under no circumstances allow drivers to break there. We don't go there after dark and it's pretty busy during the day, so it's safe enough to do your drop and hook then leave. I drive all up and down the east coast and the Midwest. I frequently go to Miami, Atlanta, Chicago, and currently headed up I-95 from FL to Baltimore.

Your "feeling" couldn't be more off base. And yeah, before you ever posted it, I'd read that article in CDL Life about the unfortunate incident with that driver. Stuff like that is extremely rare and you really have to wonder about the circumstances and what the article might have "left out".

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I have NEVER felt unsafe anywhere except for a Ford drop lot (Stony island anyone?) In Chicago. They don't allow drivers to overnight there, security is armed and locked in a steel box type of thing with a bank vault style door, and my company let me violate my HOS to leave because it was getting dark.

That is one of the worst parts of Chicago. If you have to do anything there after dark I'd call the police and they will usually "escort" you. But I'd avoid that area or any area on the south or west sides after dark.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Robert D. (Raptor)'s Comment
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Todd

Are you serious about becoming a trucker? I do have a strong opinion on GUNS. But never do I want 3000 truckers armed. I wouldn't carry when I was driving. Be a trucker or get off all this GLOOM and DOOM stuff I have read from you since you started on here. These experienced drivers here are serious about what they do and they are passing on their knowledge to as many potential truckers as they can and still do their job. If you have a question that is pertinent to this forum then by all means ask it, we don't need entertainment. My brother carries for his job, but he would agree with so many on here that every trucker on here carrying would be a big mistake. Plus in the short time since I found this site this GUN thing still keeps popping up. It gets real old.

but this gun carrying truckers thing needs to end. Your life and anyone else's is not worth the trouble or headache.

Do you want what comes of the repercussions of maybe you shoot a would be robber, you are still under what ever State jurisdictions of State you are in. The time off to maybe a lengthy court process. Can any trucker afford that loss in pay?

Now if I have offended anyone with my not patient response, sorry.sorry.gif

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Susan D. 's Comment
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Exactly Bobcat. My trailer I was to pickup, had a flat. Was waiting for repair truck. It took too long and ran out of time and they weren't there I I figured they weren't going to show.. I don't blame them. Began to get dark and I left, dragging that trailer (with the flat) through the hood out of there to our south Chicago terminal for repair and my 10.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Todd Holmes's Comment
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Todd

Are you serious about becoming a trucker? I do have a strong opinion on GUNS. But never do I want 3000 truckers armed. I wouldn't carry when I was driving. Be a trucker or get off all this GLOOM and DOOM stuff I have read from you since you started on here. These experienced drivers here are serious about what they do and they are passing on their knowledge to as many potential truckers as they can and still do their job. If you have a question that is pertinent to this forum then by all means ask it, we don't need entertainment. My brother carries for his job, but he would agree with so many on here that every trucker on here carrying would be a big mistake. Plus in the short time since I found this site this GUN thing still keeps popping up. It gets real old.

but this gun carrying truckers thing needs to end. Your life and anyone else's is not worth the trouble or headache.

Do you want what comes of the repercussions of maybe you shoot a would be robber, you are still under what ever State jurisdictions of State you are in. The time off to maybe a lengthy court process. Can any trucker afford that loss in pay?

Now if I have offended anyone with my not patient response, sorry.sorry.gif

There is optional arms insurance a gun owner can purchase. It provides money for a lawyer and legal fees for a possible civil or criminal defense from even well-intentioned use of a gun in self-defense. I would rather use a gun and face possible legal and career consequences than be hurt badly by an attacker. I have a George Zimmerman mentality. Yes, I favor stronger self-defense legislation nationwide and reciprocal concealed carry. My life is much more important to me than any diesel truck in the world and its cargo.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

PackRat's Comment
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So, you seem to me to be the one that surfs the net, looking for things to worry about. Is the sky falling? Ever kill anyone, or needed to use a weapon for self-defense? I killed many enemy combatants, and one would-be robber. Some were up close, but most were hundreds of yards away through a scope. It's not something pleasant to live with sometimes. Ever read that fact during all your research of fun-filled tidbits of useless knowledge that truckers need to know?

G-Town's Comment
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Todd continues gnawing at the bone...

I have a George Zimmerman mentality. Yes, I favor stronger self-defense legislation nationwide and reciprocal concealed carry. My life is much more important to me than any diesel truck in the world and its cargo.

I was thinking more like the cartoon character “Yosemite Sam”...

Since you’ll never be in a truck, you needn’t worry yourself about it. So how about you give up your little crusade so we can focus on what really matters here.

Diver Driver's Comment
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One wintery night last winter I had a delivery across the street from the projects in Cleveland, OH. Having my girlfriend on board along with my 2 dogs, I just did the following. Drivers side door as close to the parked trailer next to me as possible. Run the seat belt through the door handles, and then tie rope between the two doors. Bam... no one gets in. Bat...I mean tire thumper next to my bunk.

100% legal in even the most idiotic liberal, anti gun state, and Canada

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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Since you’ll never be in a truck, you needn’t worry yourself about it.

My thoughts exactly. Seems to be finding reasons to avoid it

Todd Holmes's Comment
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So, you seem to me to be the one that surfs the net, looking for things to worry about. Is the sky falling? Ever kill anyone, or needed to use a weapon for self-defense? I killed many enemy combatants, and one would-be robber. Some were up close, but most were hundreds of yards away through a scope. It's not something pleasant to live with sometimes. Ever read that fact during all your research of fun-filled tidbits of useless knowledge that truckers need to know?

I was a soldier, never a minute in combat, for seven years and never killed a soul. I never killed any human as a civilian either or picked up a gun or deadly weapon out of fear for my personal safety. I have hunted and lawfully killed several animals.

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