New Boot Device Being Deployed To Threaten Walmart Overnighters

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Bruce K.'s Comment
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What i want to know is why is Walmart required to provide you a place to park overnight. Nobody ever mentions target or malls yet I never see anyone parked there. If I were to deliver a brand new pool to your home does that mean I can set up a tent in your front yard without permission and leave my trash in your grass? Similar concept

Nobody's asking to set up a tent or leave trash. These are professional drivers delivering to commercial locations. Totally different situation. Except the drivers that abuse the rules. They make it tough on the majority of conscientious drivers.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Nobody's asking to set up a tent or leave trash. These are professional drivers delivering to commercial locations. Totally different situation. Except the drivers that abuse the rules. They make it tough on the majority of conscientious drivers.

And herein lies the rub.

The few screw it up for the many.

But don't think that WalMart doesn't get "a piece of the action" from the tow/boot company - it's a standard business arrangement. Wally World is doing the tow company the favor, by giving them the contract.

These "boot guys" are predators.

Fact of the matter - if you see a tow/boot sign - it's a good chance it's going to happen.

Best practice when questionable, would be to check with the manager, when you GO IN TO DO SOME SHOPPING.

Truckers don't have a RIGHT to park @ Wallys, just because truckers deliver there - and acting like we do creates more problems than it solves (and sometimes leads to places resorting to booting/towing).

Rick

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Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I never understood why drivers feel entitled to a parking on private property, while it be nice if every Wal-Mart allowed parking they do not have too.

Drivers are their own worse enemy they want parking and then constantly disrespect places that are nice enough to allow parking by tashing their lot.

Rob D.'s Comment
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I understand the issue and am not taking a position either way. However... I've never understood the logic behind immobilizing a vehicle you want to move!
Walmart gets fined for trucks being there overnight

The enforcement is problematic from a legal perspective. Generally, parking is traffic regulation and police officers can only ticket on public roads, except for trespassing. However, cities can prohibit the owner of real property (Walmart) from overnight truck parking and fine them when a violation occurs.

So in addition to the "bad trucker behavior" described above, I'm sure Walmart gets tweaked when they have to pay a fine for a truck that parked overnight on their lot.

And Walmart will try to contest any fine by showing the city that they are taking efforts to prevent overnight truck parking. Otherwise, the city will simply say they are allowing it by not taking any actions to prevent it.

"Booting" is somewhat legally suspect. The established legal method to address parking in violation of posted policies is to tow the vehicle. The simple concept is that the vehicle is "trespassing" the same way a person would trespass on property. As a property owner, you have the right to have someone removed from your property. And each state has very strict regulations regarding towing of vehicles from private property. But a loaded truck is not as easy to move as a Chevy Impala.

But booting, following the trespassing theme, is like saying "you won't get off my property? Fine, I'll lock you in my basement until you pay me $500." If you did that to a person, you be criminally charged as well as paying a huge amount of money to the person you locked in your basement.

Walmart simply wants to show the cities they are taking action to prevent overnight truck parking. And they don't want the liability or hassle of towing the vehicle, so they boot it. Then they contact the media to make sure that truckers know about it and Dave W posts the article on here and voila they have made their point.

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Marc Lee's Comment
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Walmart simply wants to show the cities they are taking action to prevent overnight truck parking. And they don't want the liability or hassle of towing the vehicle, so they boot it. Then they contact the media to make sure that truckers know about it and Dave W posts the article on here and voila they have made their point.

OK, NOW I get it!

Well done Rob!

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Bruce K.'s Comment
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So, if you, as a driver, can't park at your most convenient location (be it a Wal-Mart or other location), what are you to do?

I'd like to see a new discussion on alternative parking locations. Just as HOS management is a skill, so is locating safe, legal

parking. Mostly, it just takes experience, common sense and maybe some creative thinking. There were a number of times

I couldn't park at my desired location, but I found suitable parking nearby. And I never paid for parking, although I have to

beg forgiveness from you drivers that frequent the northeast, etc. Parking skills are not limited to backing into a parking space,

but you gotta find that space in the first place! (Yes, I know that rhymes)

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PackRat's Comment
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This is not a new subject. The lack of enough truck parking in some areas has been going on since before any of us were born. Unfortunately, it seemingly is getting worse, or it’s getting more attention. Everything the public uses comes by truck, but most never realize that the shelves don’t magically get filled every night by friendly elves. They enjoy all that is consumed but don’t want to see the big, dirty, evil trucks that bring their treats.

Banks's Comment
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This weekend I went to my local Walmart. Keep in mind, it was a holiday weekend. Walmart was a zoo.. There was a JB hunt truck parked across about 12 parking spots. Not at the other end of the lot, he was pretty much right on front of the door a few rows down from the handicap spots. He had cars parked in spots all around him. He didn't have not than 2 feet in front of him or behind him. I don't know when or how he got out of there because the store doesn't die down until it closes at midnight. I also wondered if anybody went inside to complain because they had to park pretty far from the door and people complain. I could see how this could be a nuisance to the store and why they would want to do something about it. Lastly, stores don't make these decisions, corporate does. If the bosses say boot trucks, they're going to boot trucks. They're not risking their livelihood or write ups because you had no where to park. Lastly, there's a reason Walmart is cracking down on this. I don't know what it is, but there's a reason. If they never knew you were there, they wouldn't enact a policy.

Banks's Comment
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I've never understood the logic behind immobilizing a vehicle you want to move!

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Your not thinking big picture. If it hits enough wallets people take notice. Signs obviously didn't do the job so they moved to the thing people feel the most which is that hit to the wallet.

Do you think a driver who got hit with 500 will ever park there again? How about anyone who saw this, would you park there knowing it could cost you 500?

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EXCUSE me, but I have a problem with this Wal-Mart policy. If Wheels-On-Wheels brought you your food and you dictated where they parked, or called the police, wouldn't that be self-defeating? Where would Wal-Mart be without trucks and drivers? And who pays the ticket? The company or the driver? Either way it doesn't make sense to me. Please correct me if I'm not seeing this correctly.

Where would anybody be without trucks and drivers? Saying you have a right to park there because they use trucks is ridiculous. If Walmart locked up their parking lot at night and you couldn't leave until they opened, would you still park there? What if it wasn't guaranteed they were going to open? If the parking lot could possibly stay locked up for a few days, would you park there? Why do you ask any other cos if it's ok if you park there, but Walmart has to ok it, just because. How many of those trucks or companies are actually doing business with Walmart?

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HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

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Rubber Duck's Comment
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Tell me more about parking please. I’m all ears. I’m 60 miles east of hillside New Jersey on I78 with one hour left on my clock. Where should I go to park at the moment. Where are these infinite spots

Drivers have the responsibility to determine where they can park and where they can't park. There are usually ample places to park and if a driver has some thinking ability, he can find a legal spot 99 times out of 100.

That being said, I don't like Wal-Mart parking policies. I know they have been instituted because of driver abuse and other issues, but on the other hand, Wal-Mart depends on drivers to keep their DC's and stores stocked. Without truck drivers, the ENTIRE economy would collapse. So, can there be common ground found?

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