A Bizarre Conversation With A New Driver
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I know this ND was a bit of a complainer but not everyone is comfortable climbing on their loads. I’ve come across a few flatbed drivers who were like that.
Why would a driver who felt uncomfortable climbing up on a load choose to drive flatbed? Why not drive dry van?
Harry said, "A man's got to know his limitations".
Dry Van:
A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Old School
As usual your stories smack a big punch. And good info too. I stumbled on 2 CR ENGLAND guys arguing at the Love's I was at. One was telling the other that he's been driving longer and been with the company longer. It kind of relates what you (Old School) were trying to get across to ND. But I didn't hear the whole conversation. So I don't know what prompted the start of the problem. I didn't want to hear anymore, so went in to get my fuel receipt. When I came out they were still at it. Some personalities should not be together. Sorry OS, didn't mean to hijack your thread.
Raptor
Brett that is an excellent book alright. I read it years ago in a leadership class. It’s still on my bookshelf. Another you may like is “The way we choose” author is Dave Carey.
OS great illustration of what not to do, thank you for sharing it.
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
This is not a "bizarre" conversation. OS was having a normal chat with an individual that had the bizarre notion that a new member of a group had any power to pull a Spartacus move with the drivers at SAPA.
OS learned this himself 3 years ago when he butted in on a conversation (meaning he had no credibility with the other drivers). Check this out: Me And My Big Mouth! (How To Start A Fight At A Terminal)
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
SKATEBOARDING 101:
Since I already had a Valid Class A and wasn't beholden to any Company:
I took the Flatbed Securing Lessons in N. Charleston, SC the beginning of 2000. I had ZERO PROBLEM climbing on ANY Load except of course mushy stuff and Coils. I treated Skateboard Loads like Mountains: most are solid with loose parts. Pick a Route.
I had NO problems with Loaders, Loads and Securing. My problem was Tarps, so i didn't last very long with Skateboards because I would not Tarp some Loads, much to the chagrin and anguish of Dispatchers + Company Rules, and I refused to Tarp Treated Wood. Untreated Wood and Coils, no problem.
I ventured off to Dry Vans.
CHEERS!!
Dispatcher:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Dry Van:
A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
I refused to Tarp Treated Wood
Good grief. You're definitely one of those guys. It's easy to say it's unnecessary when the money that paid for the product didn't come out of your pocket.
Did it ever dawn on you that something other than water might wind up on that wood, ruining it completely? Then the boss has to pay tens of thousands of dollars for a new load of wood because his simple-minded driver didn't think it necessary to spend 30 minutes to protect the customer's product.
There's a genius born every day. Come on, man!
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ok, here's my educated opinion on pressure treated wood. I won't buy any that hasn't been stored inside a lumber shed and kept dry. I just hand picked up a load of PT lumber that had been stored inside. Was it tarped on the truck? I don't know, but at least it wasn't stored outside. The load was all 2X10's and 2X12's. The water content is so high that it is difficult for me to handle 12 foot lengths by myself. So, I'm a strong proponent of tarping those loads. Put that in the "for whatever it's worth" department.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School;
This thread, with it's all of you wholeheartedly, and .. the information within.. and Errol's great links.. It's awesome. Y'all will always be the antithesis of many, but that's what MANY of us love about you, good sirs!
Just thought this needed a bump!
~ Anne ~
ps: One of the buried ones, with a ton of input, from the professionals!
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I know this ND was a bit of a complainer but not everyone is comfortable climbing on their loads. I’ve come across a few flatbed drivers who were like that.
Why would a driver who felt uncomfortable climbing up on a load choose to drive flatbed? Why not drive dry van?
Dry Van:
A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.