What Does A Quarantine Due To Coronavirus Mean For Truckers?

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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its brand new virus structured very different from its predecessors and its known ability to transfer easily even from a nonsymptomatic person which id say is probably the most fearful part
The 2 biggest things I've heard with it are how easily it transfers to another person and the long infection it can cause

Sometimes I feel I exist on a different planet from everyone else. Am I the only one who went to school growing up where colds and flus would sweep through the school and make like 20% of the school sick?

Did you guys not have colds and flus over the years that went through your household and almost everyone in the family had it?

Have you never had a cold that you just couldn't shake for a few weeks?

How is any of this new? I'm scratching my head over here. This entire thing is just baffling.

Human psychology is such that if you say something with conviction enough times people will believe it, no matter how absurd it is. It's also been demonstrated that if enough people agree something is true, others will then agree no matter how absurd it is.

There is a well-known experiment called the Solomon Asch - Conformity Experiment where eight people were asked a question with an obvious answer. Seven of those people were part of the experiment and agreed to purposely pick the wrong answer. The eighth person had no idea the other seven were in on it, and that eighth person always gave their answer last, after hearing the other seven pick the wrong answer.

Most of the time that eighth person went along with the group and agreed to the wrong answer, even though that person didn't believe the answer was correct.

Over the 12 critical trials, about 75% of participants conformed at least once, and 25% of participants never conformed.

In the control group, with no pressure to conform to confederates, less than 1% of participants gave the wrong answer.

So almost no one ever gave the wrong answer unless others in the group had agreed to it first. When others agreed to it, the person conformed at least once 75% of the time.

Why did the participants conform so readily? When they were interviewed after the experiment, most of them said that they did not really believe their conforming answers, but had gone along with the group for fear of being ridiculed or thought "peculiar."

Apparently, people conform for two main reasons: because they want to fit in with the group (normative influence) and because they believe the group is better informed than they are (informational influence).

I've never been concerned about being ridiculed or thought "peculiar," I'm not interested in fitting in with the group, and I also don't believe the general public is better informed than I am. I guess that's rather apparent by the fact I started this website and named it "Trucking Truth" - I'm obviously compelled to trust my own knowledge, experience, and instincts.

In the case of this virus, the math simply doesn't add up. It hasn't from the start. I'm a math and data kind of guy. I do not argue with math or statistics no matter how many times politicians tell me that our reality is the opposite of what the numbers tell us.

I still stand by my original thesis, that this is a gigantic fire drill and that before the month is out they'll announce some sort of solution that allows them to begin loosening the reigns and turning us loose. The math says that the devastation to the world's economy simply will not be tolerated much longer than that.

We'll see how it all goes.

Jeremy, naturally I hope you're feeling better soon and I have no doubt you will be.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rob. D.'s Comment
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Brett restates his very valid point:

I still stand by my original thesis, that this is a gigantic fire drill and that before the month is out they'll announce some sort of solution that allows them to begin loosening the reigns and turning us loose. The math says that the devastation to the world's economy simply will not be tolerated much longer than that.

Did we have this reaction to the Swine Flu Pandemic of 2009? Or the Asian Flu Pandemic of 1957? Or the Spanish Flu of 1918?

Worst Pandemics in the History of the World

Pandemics will happen. However, to cut off our nose (or probably more accurately, our head) to spite our face is ridiculous.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Jeremy's Comment
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Im not really argueing about the commonality of the symptoms im just not willing to accept any unnecessry death to innocent people so ill abide by the rules because i actually am sick with it do i think others without it could just be cautious and sanitary id like to think so but then i think about every absolutely disgusting public bathroom ive ever been in and wonder if most are capable of caring Rob its a strong point but i think science and epidemiology is far more advanced than previous I love my country and i hope this doesnt tear it apart

Rick S.'s Comment
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I've never been concerned about being ridiculed or thought "peculiar," I'm not interested in fitting in with the group, and I also don't believe the general public is better informed than I am. I guess that's rather apparent by the fact I started this website and named it "Trucking Truth" - I'm obviously compelled to trust my own knowledge, experience, and instincts.

In the case of this virus, the math simply doesn't add up. It hasn't from the start. I'm a math and data kind of guy. I do not argue with math or statistics no matter how many times politicians tell me that our reality is the opposite of what the numbers tell us.

I still stand by my original thesis, that this is a gigantic fire drill and that before the month is out they'll announce some sort of solution that allows them to begin loosening the reigns and turning us loose. The math says that the devastation to the world's economy simply will not be tolerated much longer than that.

We'll see how it all goes.

Jeremy, naturally I hope you're feeling better soon and I have no doubt you will be.

I'm pretty much the same way - trusting the results of my search for the truth, over what I'm being spoonfed, REGARDLESS OF WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT ME (most think I'm an a-hole already, why deny them their opinions).

The new expression out there is: "flattening the curve". And what it means is - if we can STAGGER OUT THE TIMELINE of the transmission, we can more effectively treat those that are getting worse symptoms WITHOUT overloading the healthcare system and having to start refusing treatment to those that might require "advanced treatment" (ICU beds, ventilators, etc.).

That appears to be the BIG THING that the .gov is trying to accomplish here.

YES - it's just the ******* FLU.

Current US mortality #'s (out of John Hopkins as I type this) are 150 dead, out of 9,415 confirmed cases. Which is bound to be low-balled, but still 1.6% mortality (almost 1/2 of which are out of the nursing home in WA state).

It "appears to be" more contagious, with transmissibility during the non-symptomatic (which is why it is communicated so rapidly - people are sick without KNOWING they're sick, so they aren't "staying home with the flu) . And it appears to survive on surfaces longer than previous iterations.

That aside - IT'S JUST THE ******* FLU.

As far as the "Fire Drill" aspect - pretty much onboard with that (not the flu itself, but how it's being dealt with - not even going to get into whether it was CREATED AND RELEASED as part of a bigger plan).

I also thought the aftermath of the "Boston Marathon Bombing" was a (really scary) "Fire Drill". How to get a major metropolitan city, under MARTIAL LAW - WITHOUT ACTUALLY DECLARING IT (not getting into whether it was a "false flag" and the Tsarnov brother were just the "fall guys"). A city on LOCKDOWN - HOUSE TO HOUSE UNWARRANTED SEARCHES - PEOPLE GETTING MARCHED ONTO BUSES. THAT SCARED ME MORE - than the "Kung Fu Flu" does.

Though things could go sideways REALLY FAST.

People are SCARED (media pimped kabuki theater or not), but fear turns into FRUSTRATION (at being locked down, and not being able to pay bills, find toilet paper, etc.) - which turns into ANGER, which turns into PEOPLE ACTING OUT - which turns into GOVERNMENTS EXERTING LETHAL FORCE TO RESTORE ORDER.

ONCE THEY GET A CHANCE TO TAKE OUR RIGHTS AWAY FROM US (suspending posse comitatus, Stafford Act, National State of Emergency, Martial Law, etc.) - DOES ANYONE THINK THEY'LL GIVE THEM BACK?

And I trust the "Bad Orange Man" in charge - more than I would EVER TRUST the previous admin, or what could be the FUTURE ONE (Biden/Stacy Abrams - give me a frikkin break). Whatever his faults, I do believe he GENUINELY LOVES THIS COUNTRY, OUR CONSTITUTION AND ITS PEOPLE.

Rick

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rob T.'s Comment
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It appears the panic shopping is far from over. I planned on having tomorrow off as scheduled but received a text that they're 30 drivers short for loads going out. I'm working extra today and will make close to $500 including the extra $100 for working extra. I missed my reset by 1 hour when I started work yesterday and currently sitting at 17 hours left on my 70 so I'll definitely be taking advantage of the HOS declaration. My next day off won't be until Tuesday. It will be a big payday for me.....and uncle sam unfortunately.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Yuuyo Y.'s Comment
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Uncle sam about to need a big payday too

Yuuyo Y.'s Comment
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Route cut tommorow; don't have to work. People with more seniority than me put back on saturdays (I elected to be put back on saturday months ago) which means they laid off about 20 people already. Me and the people around me are potentially up next. Casecounts dropped to like 25k a day down from 50k.

I'm at one day next week and it'll probably be cut too. I'll take this as a nice unpaid vacation. If it goes on for like a year, I think we will have a lot bigger problems than me running out of money.

Rob. D.'s Comment
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Route cut tommorow; don't have to work. People with more seniority than me put back on saturdays (I elected to be put back on saturday months ago) which means they laid off about 20 people already. Me and the people around me are potentially up next. Casecounts dropped to like 25k a day down from 50k.

I'm at one day next week and it'll probably be cut too. I'll take this as a nice unpaid vacation. If it goes on for like a year, I think we will have a lot bigger problems than me running out of money.

Sorry to hear that you are a casualty of the COVID-19 inspired panic.

Will you wait a year or will you start looking for something after the two week government suggested economic hiatus?

Yuuyo Y.'s Comment
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If I'm eligible for unemployment (which the state's website says I am) and I stop spending money I can survive with no loss of savings on unemployment. I'm not officially laid off yet (or I can take a voluntary leave of absence which I think still makes me eligible for unemployment?) Since this is a union job, they have to call people back in order of seniority first. If this lasts more than six months, like I said, we have a lot bigger problems on our hand.

Unless Sysco goes under, I'm not worried. People ARE going to need food eventually.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
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Route cut tommorow; don't have to work. People with more seniority than me put back on saturdays (I elected to be put back on saturday months ago) which means they laid off about 20 people already. Me and the people around me are potentially up next. Casecounts dropped to like 25k a day down from 50k.

I'm at one day next week and it'll probably be cut too. I'll take this as a nice unpaid vacation. If it goes on for like a year, I think we will have a lot bigger problems than me running out of money.

Yuyyo, I totally agree with your last sentence. Entirely.

A pal of the hubby's is in the SAME situation as you are, with GFS. I sure hope things get to looking up for you, man. I love reading your updates, so...keep 'em coming.

Wishing you the best~good-luck.gif

Anne

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