8 Hour Rule Change

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Daniel 's Comment
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I noticed today that my 8 hour clock only runs when driving, and it pauses when I go on duty, not driving. Before my 8 hour clock ran continuously until it was reset with 30 minutes of off duty time.

Today my 8 hour clock lasted for over 10 hours!

Being able to pause the 8 hour clock is wonderful. So far my favorite new HOS rule.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PJ's Comment
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I’ll have to check that out. I was watching my 14 to see if it stopped and it didn’t. It probably gonna take a bit to get used to.

Sid V.'s Comment
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That's a great change for us to give some flexibility. The rule changed to a 30 min break after 8 hours of actual DRIVE time, vs. 8 hours of the 14 hour clock.

Nothing changed with the 14 hour clock as far as I know.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Lol I never drive 8 hrs straight 4 or more yeah

Tested this out it does take effect. Stopped for showers after maybe 2 hr drive.

Rest my clock to 8 hrs Then later I took a 30 DOT break in 2 hrs., and it then added back 3 hrs n few minutes again....bringing my clock up to 6 hrs n 53 minutes drive time.

I got tired so pulled into a rest area n took 3 hour nap and those 3 hours came off my drivetime. Proceeded to drive the rest of my time down to 15 minutes doing our driver swap out.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I didnt use any time off my 8 hour clock getting hooked up in the morning which is nice, and then it reset again when I got to Indy and dropped and hooked there.

Very strange to say the least, I will have to play with it and see how I can use this to my advantage, it will be nice to go to Indy and straight back and not need to park for 30 minutes because I came up 15 short of making it.

Yuuyo Y.'s Comment
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I never have to DOT break again if I don't want to since it's guaranteed at least ONE of my stops for the day will take at least 30 minutes.

Now I can sit for a whole hour when my route is done if I want.

That's a great change for us to give some flexibility. The rule changed to a 30 min break after 8 hours of actual DRIVE time, vs. 8 hours of the 14 hour clock.

Nothing changed with the 14 hour clock as far as I know.

iirc it changed where onduty satisfies the break.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Tim F.'s Comment
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I was delayed at one of our stores yesterday. I was “on duty” for about 45 minutes.

Pleasantly surprised when I hopped back in the tractor and saw my time had reset and I wouldn’t have to stop on my way back.

That’s going to be a nice feature of the new rules.

Dan F.'s Comment
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This is one of the two changes that was long overdue and as you can see we are all enjoying it now

Susan D. 's Comment
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Be careful with the new rules. We've already had a driver get cited for logs during an inspection.

Idk about everyone else's company, but mine will automatically pause the 14 hour clock on any 2 or 3 hour break. The problem is, with no 7 or 8 hour sleeper berth period, that 2 or 3 hour off duty pause, doesn't count. I've heard other companies the drivers have to check a box saying that 2 or 3 hours will be paired with a sleeper berth period and THEN, it will pause that 14 hour clock.

Be aware of what time you started your 14 hour clock and make sure you don't exceed that, unless you're doing a split break. Your elogs may or may not accurately reflect your remaining time. Also you can be on duty not driving to fulfill that 30 minute break. Personally I like my 30 minute break off duty because I typically use that for lunch or restroom break.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

Cincybeerhawk's Comment
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Be careful with the new rules. We've already had a driver get cited for logs during an inspection.

Idk about everyone else's company, but mine will automatically pause the 14 hour clock on any 2 or 3 hour break. The problem is, with no 7 or 8 hour sleeper berth period, that 2 or 3 hour off duty pause, doesn't count. I've heard other companies the drivers have to check a box saying that 2 or 3 hours will be paired with a sleeper berth period and THEN, it will pause that 14 hour clock.

Be aware of what time you started your 14 hour clock and make sure you don't exceed that, unless you're doing a split break. Your elogs may or may not accurately reflect your remaining time. Also you can be on duty not driving to fulfill that 30 minute break. Personally I like my 30 minute break off duty because I typically use that for lunch or restroom break.

As an FNG, let me see if I have this correct. I know someone, anyone, will square me away if I get it wrong.

Here’s my example: I come on duty at 6:00 a.m. and drive for three hours (since I can drive for a total of 11 (right?) during my 14 hours on duty I would have eight hours left to drive - I think).

I take a three hour break at 9:00 a.m.

I drive three hours from noon until 3:00 p.m. (I’ve now used six hours, but have five left to drive - I think).

I take a seven hour break in the sleeper from 3:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m. Have I have now pushed back the end of my 14 hour on duty time from 8:00 p.m. until sometime on the other side of midnight (I don’t know when) by coupling the three hour break with the seven hour break?

Since I have five hours remaining in my 14 in which I can drive, can I drive from 10:00 p.m. until 3:00 a.m. legally?

Thanks to all for indulging a wet-behind-the-ears, green-as-grass, eager to learn and do the right thing rookie.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Sleeper Berth:

The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.

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