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Chief Brody's Comment
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Bird-one,

This is my best guess as to what is going on. As you know, your MVR does not show alcohol and drugs present related to your accident, although the background check company says that.

I know National Crime Information Center reports are "fuzzy" meaning they will report records of people with similar names, birthdates, and social security numbers. But NCIC reports are not available to the public or third-parties. But the reporting agency that the background check company uses may have the same "fuzzy" search process and the record they pulled shows an arrest of someone with a similar date to your accident. Ask the background check company what system they are using for their search and see if you can get your own report from them.

Rob.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Bird-One's Comment
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Thanks for your insight Rob. I have a few more questions for you but want to address Bobcat first.

I’ll have to double check but it would appear to me that he court ordered mvr is the same as the abstract. When ever I’ve gone to the dmv for an mvr copy I’ve only ever been given two options. Job seeker or court ordered. When I looked online how to get a abstract copy it’s the same process as a court ordered copy.

I'll give you credit for fighting so vigorously, a lot of people would have just moved on.

Not sure it will help, but did you request your Illinois driving record abstract? You can do it online or at the DMV. It might have something different than the court purpose MVR since there was no ticket or conviction.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Bush Country's Comment
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I know National Crime Information Center reports are "fuzzy" meaning they will report records of people with similar names, birthdates, and social security numbers. But NCIC reports are not available to the public or third-parties. But the reporting agency that the background check company uses may have the same "fuzzy" search process and the record they pulled shows an arrest of someone with a similar date to your accident. Ask the background check company what system they are using for their search and see if you can get your own report from them.

I can attest to the "fuzzy" part. There is an individual in a different state than me that has the same exact name and birthday. He has been incarcerated multiple times. When I applied at Knight, I told the recruiter that it was likely to show up on my background report. It did. Thankfully I have a solid work history, including the times when the other individual was in prison. It also helps that he is a different race. If I apply for any other jobs in the future, I still expect this to show up even though I've filed the paperwork to have it removed. IMHO the people that perform these background checks throw anything on the report that is even vaguely similar and don't care about the consequences for the person it hurts.

Bird-One's Comment
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Well I just finally got answer. And it way worse than I could if ever imagined. It doesn’t even make sense. I’m not even sure how it’s legal. It’s not legal.

Bobcat was correct there to two different mvr reports but I guess you need to call the state for the abstract report. Which I did. Spoke with a very nice lady who did some digging. She pulls it up and says there is a box on the crash report that an officer can check if he feels the crash was simply “alcohol related”

And he checked it. Can someone make sense of this for me? How on earth can I have such a thing on my record if I wasn't given any kind of sobriety or drug test, no ticket, not listed at a preventable, never lead to believe the officer had any suspicions of my being intoxicated but can just check some box and rip my driving record.

So I asked her how this is supposed to be fixed. She said go the the station that the trooper is out of. That is a hour and a half away. She said I need to go there and have the report amended. I called and asked to speak with that trooper and he has since retired. I’m physically ill and completely in disbelief over it.

Has anybody ever heard of this before? I have only one option. Lawyer up. Hell maybe I’ll call the I-team investigates team or something. This is insane.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Tammy A.'s Comment
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something like this happened to me a few years ago. Different situation but bottom line the mistake happened when they switched over to a new computer system at the DMV

Thanks for your insight Rob. I have a few more questions for you but want to address Bobcat first.

I’ll have to double check but it would appear to me that he court ordered mvr is the same as the abstract. When ever I’ve gone to the dmv for an mvr copy I’ve only ever been given two options. Job seeker or court ordered. When I looked online how to get a abstract copy it’s the same process as a court ordered copy.

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I'll give you credit for fighting so vigorously, a lot of people would have just moved on.

Not sure it will help, but did you request your Illinois driving record abstract? You can do it online or at the DMV. It might have something different than the court purpose MVR since there was no ticket or conviction.

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Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

MVR:

Motor Vehicle Record

An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.

Tammy A.'s Comment
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DIdnt see you solved the problem. good luck

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Had a similar thing on my DMV record back in early 2000's....

Had applied to be a mixer driver, for a well known, large company in Cali. I got my driving record, no issues listed which I knew I had none,. ok good. Well once I applied and THEY ran my record, I was denied, said I had an accident on my record????

Turns out some guy in Carpenteria, Ca had this accident. We have the same Bday, same names except middle names. Mines with M, his was L, and his license was out of Colorado, mines Cali.

Spent the whole day on the phone between the DMV, and the Police dept up north. I never had heard of the town he wrecked in, before this.... Well, DMV screwed up, wouldn't admit it, or fix it Told me I had to go to the police dept nd have them do something to correct it....Obviously DMV idiot input info on wrong guy, ME LOL

I told the DMV it was THEIR fault and THEY needed to fix it PERIOD !! Well they refused, so I just gave up and let it fall off. It never showed up again, that I know of, on any record checks, since haven't heard anything more.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Has anybody ever heard of this before? I have only one option. Lawyer up. Hell maybe I’ll call the I-team investigates team or something. This is insane.

Dang, man. This. Is. Insane. You said it.

Seriously, I'd DEFINITELY look at I'Teaming it. We've got that here, too...with all our major news networks; predominantly Fox. They'd probably LOVE this case, as the TRUCKING industry is a HOT TOPIC ... since we all now know, Biden 'drove in' an 18 wheeler, haha!

Good Lord, please let us know how this plays out. Reprehensible, at the moment. I'm so sorry.

~ Anne ~

ps: FAB is hiring in your area...still !!! (email in my bio, haha!)

Chief Brody's Comment
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Bird-one,

This is so messed up that I couldn't even find a specific form for this type of contest on the Illinois Secretary of State's website. But I did find a general Hearing Request Form. See the link below.

You could hire an attorney or you could try to do it yourself. The form below appears designed for pro se contests.

I would simply file the form, check the box "other," and provide a description. Bring certified documents to the hearing and explain the situation to the hearing officer as you have described. Essentially, that no alcohol related tests were administered, that none of the other accident related documents indicate any alcohol relation to the accident, and that the officer had no basis to check the box "alcohol related."

Or, as the lady as the Secretary of State said, you could continue to try to track down the retired officer and get him to amend the report.

Illinois Secretary of State Hearing Request

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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That's not the answer I expected, basically you where convicted of a DUI without ever going through the process. If there was suspicion of alcohol you should have had the tests done, and there would have been follow up. It'd all very odd.

I'd maybe contact who ever is in charge at that post and see if they can help. Or contact a lawyer I think that maybe the fastest way to right this, filing a hearing request with the state may take months.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

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