HOS Brain Teaser For Fun

I just want to clarify what I said about what your company tells you. To the extent that your company is imposing policies and procedures that are within their discretion to impose that maybe more stringent than the HOS regulations , then you have to follow what your company says. But in a circumstance where they are telling you to do something that is a clear violation of the HOS regulations then you must follow the HOS regulations.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

This is a lesson in unknowingly admitting falsification of logs. I guarantee Schneider does not authorize this…and that Bruce did not receive this authorization in writing.

Log what what you do, do what you log. Simple.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

This is a lesson in unknowingly admitting falsification of logs. I guarantee Schneider does not authorize this…and that Bruce did not receive this authorization in writing.

Log what what you do, do what you log. Simple.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

Bruce doesn't work for Schneider anymore. I am not going to name the company, but it has been mentioned by him on the forum.

No but he was trained by Schneider. He knows better.

This is a lesson in unknowingly admitting falsification of logs. I guarantee Schneider does not authorize this…and that Bruce did not receive this authorization in writing.

Log what what you do, do what you log. Simple.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

Bruce doesn't work for Schneider anymore. I am not going to name the company, but it has been mentioned by him on the forum.

No but he was trained by Schneider. He knows better.

This is a lesson in unknowingly admitting falsification of logs. I guarantee Schneider does not authorize this…and that Bruce did not receive this authorization in writing.

Log what what you do, do what you log. Simple.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

Bruce doesn't work for Schneider anymore. I am not going to name the company, but it has been mentioned by him on the forum.

Ok, I get the point. Doesn't matter that current company doesn't require it, Schneider trained him better than that.

Helwig? Whatever… ITS STILL A LOG FALSIFICATION. He knows better…

No but he was trained by Schneider. He knows better.

This is a lesson in unknowingly admitting falsification of logs. I guarantee Schneider does not authorize this…and that Bruce did not receive this authorization in writing.

Log what what you do, do what you log. Simple.

BK, I think this is a lesson in making sure you have your stuff 100% together before you start putting it out there for public consumption.

Keep in mind, your company may tell you not to worry about logging it, but does your company want you putting it out there for public consumption? Don't be surprised if it comes up as an issue for you soon. You basically snitched on yourself and your company. If they monitor public forums, as many companies do, I am thinking they won't be too pleased.

As for the brain teaser. I knew it immediately because I encounter it regularly. I purposefully do a lot of overnight driving, so lots of hours on duty in the same day with a 10 sandwiched between. This is particularly useful when looking at recaps. It helps a lot to get 12+ hours back on a recap.

Bruce doesn't work for Schneider anymore. I am not going to name the company, but it has been mentioned by him on the forum.

I can guarantee that if the logs shown earlier of any driver are downloaded during an inspection, the officer will have questions that may go like this:

" You show as beginning this 8 day period, then moving from one side of the country to the other. I see no time used On Duty to fuel the truck, though. Can you explain this to me, Driver? Can you explain why you did not show On Duty during your equipment inspections, Driver? "

" I will return in a bit with some paperwork for you. You may need to call your company to tell them you will be delayed with this trip. I'm going to put you Out of Service for the next 24 hours. "

I was required to download my logs during inspections three times this year since April (twice during Operation Road Check Week). WV, OH, and GA were looking closely, and I'll bet most other states are, too. Protect your license and protect your employment by not taking shortcuts.

Interesting. Just out of curiosity, why can't a person fuel on their breaks or time off if they have the ability to? Real question.

Also, the only legal way I've found to get more than 11 hours driving in a day is to run nights or swing. So that your 10 hour reset is done in the daytime. For instance 7hrs on/drive, then 10 hours off, then 7hrs on/drive. But you end up having shorter days after that.

why can't a person fuel on their breaks or time off if they have the ability to?

Anything done in the performance or readiness of your job must be on duty. Driving, paperwork, fueling, etc.