DOT Drug Testing: Urinalysis Or Hair Follicle?

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Patricia L.'s Comment
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Has anyone experienced pseudoephedrine showing on a follicle test? I really,really don’t use any illegal substances, the job I’m leaving tests randomly, but I had a cold 3 weeks ago and used Sudaphed, an antibiotic TMP-SMX, and DayQuil. I’m frightened now that I’ve read a few online articles about false positives on drug tests. I’ve read pseudoephedrine looks different on a GC/MS than does amphetamine, do CDL schools use GC/MS as verification of positives system?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

BubblesDhaDrivah's Comment
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Just here to add that Titan Transfer only requires a UA as of 7/15/20 @ 1:17am.

Dave I's Comment
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PGT Trucking conducts both tests during the hiring process.

JakeBreak's Comment
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Butler Transport only does UA

Mother Trucker's Comment
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Anyone have recent updates for Western Express, National Carriers, TMC Transport, R.E West or Maverick USA?

Mother Trucker's Comment
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Anyone have recent updates for Western Express, National Carriers, TMC Transport, R.E West or Maverick USA?

Just realized Maverick is on board already...

Steven B.'s Comment
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Awesome you guys!!! Keep em coming in! The list is growing and I've gotten a couple of private messages also so here's the list right now:

These companies do both tests:

CR England

Roehl

JB Hunt

WEL Companies

Hair follicle test only:

Prime Inc

Just came from CRST Malone/Flatbed Solutions: I passed UA and failed Hair Follicle for pre employment. I have prescribed medication from the VA that states: Metformin is recognized by the DOT for the control of diabetes and in some individuals it will produce a "positive" on a drug screen for methamphetamines. So hopefully when I appeal these test results this will be removed from any of my reports that are requested by future employers. Due to Hair Follicle Testing NOT being mandated by the DOT, by CURRENT Law, Rules and Regulations they CANNOT put ANYTHING WHATSOEVER on my DAC , PSP, CSA Scorecard. One more thing to mention about this incident. Due to Hair Follicle testing not being mandated (required) by the DOT or the FMCSA for pre employment or even a random, I do NOT have to submit to a SAP or follow a return to duty process. If I'm wrong with any of this information, please guide me to the correct path.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

EricGuvNC's Comment
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GREETINGS ALL,

Was O.T.R. from late 1998 to early 2003 (due to a Preventable) then latter 2005 to early 2017. Brief period of College Course work in '03 & '04. Some employment in latter in '04 & '05 as Class A & B Heavy Truck Mechanic. 04/'17 to present at 2 local Driver Services (temp or temp to perm opportunities). - - - - - - - - - - - - - Never been subjected to Hair Follicle testing. Doesn't bother me. What I DO KNOW is that IF there is No Hair available, You FAIL!! Do NOT "believe" the "Shave The Body" idea! It's the same as "providing Urine" not from You. - - - - - - - - - - - - - ONCE during a Physical in 2013, I was subjected to a "Tobacco User Test" (which required 3 breathing applications [similar to the Alcohol Breath Test]). My "score" was 65%, minimal passing (average of 3 submissions) was 64%. I haven't again seen the "test" and I changed the D.O.T. Physical location/company. - - - - - - - - - - - - - As "Driver Requirements" change, so do the Trucks. (I started when there were ZERO Automatic Transmission Tractors [of that I was aware] except for the occasional Class B.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - CHEERS!! dancing.gif

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Eugene K.'s Comment
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Just found out that a legal, over-the-counter workout supplement I take contains a chemical known as 2-aminoisoheptane HCl, or DMHA, in trace amounts. It has in very rare circumstances been known to create a false positive for amphetamines on drug tests, so I've tossed this right in the trash.

This really bums me out, because I don't take drugs and now it appears I have to reset my timeline on when I can start company-sponsored CDL training to 90 or 120 days from now (due to hair follicle analysis). Though the risk of a false positive is apparently very rare, I'm not willing to take any chances and get sent home on a bus at my own expense, the door shut on my dream career.

Folks, I recommend closely checking the ingredients on any legal over-the-counter medications or workout supplements you may take, as there may be something hidden in the ingredients that could cost your career.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Eugene that sucks! I would think providing proof of that supplement, as long as you declare it on long form, would be enough to NOT be sent home but I wouldn't be willing to risk my career on it either. Great point about knowing what's in supplements. We've had a few people come in here testing positive after using CBD oil even though its marketed as containing no THC. It's always best to err on the side of caution when your career is at risk.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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