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G-Town's Comment
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I think he said his teammate had 9, if I understood correctly.

Sorry, missed that.

Marc Lee's Comment
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In my brief time training with J.B. Hunt it went like this (Trainer driving)...

Critical event (not speeding on the highway - they are pretty much ignored) recorded... Forward-facing camera records event... Event reviewed by DM... if a false reading either ignored or, more likely, dismissed with a "one-liner" exchange between driver and DM like "yeah - you didn't do anything wrong" / "yeah... I think the

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Old School's Comment
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This is really bugging me, as I'm sure it also is Christian. Any triggered events have got to be reviewed, otherwise nobody learns anything from them. Is your DBL the final word on these reviews? Do you guys mean to tell me no one else looks into these matters before your Schneider DBL gives you the axe? That seems really strange, but so does this whole story.

Jamie's Comment
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This is really bugging me, as I'm sure it also is Christian. Any triggered events have got to be reviewed, otherwise nobody learns anything from them. Is your DBL the final word on these reviews? Do you guys mean to tell me no one else looks into these matters before your Schneider DBL gives you the axe? That seems really strange, but so does this whole story.

I actually dont know how he got so many without talking to anyone else, I've had my fair share of events and I always talked to someone from safety face to face, and I even had to give a written statement on what I'll do to prevent the same mistakes in the future.

I'm doing good these days, but I made a lot of mistakes early on. So seems he's leaving some parts of the story out, unless they handle team drivers differently.

Bird-one's Comment
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He has to be leaving parts out. I got two stability control critical events in my first month. One was on my first day. That was a real bummer it was on a off ramp and was so worried about my tandem going past the white line I jerked it to the left. In my mind not much but enough to trigger an event. Second was going through a s-curve approaching the light, and again a slight jerk triggered it. Both incidents i received a message through Qualcomm immediately being told to call my DBL as soon as I had a chance. And reviewed them again with her and safety in person when I was at the DC next. I did feel the sensors were overly sensitive but that didn't make me right and them wrong. I understood what i did and it never happened again.

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This is really bugging me, as I'm sure it also is Christian. Any triggered events have got to be reviewed, otherwise nobody learns anything from them. Is your DBL the final word on these reviews? Do you guys mean to tell me no one else looks into these matters before your Schneider DBL gives you the axe? That seems really strange, but so does this whole story.

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I actually dont know how he got so many without talking to anyone else, I've had my fair share of events and I always talked to someone from safety face to face, and I even had to give a written statement on what I'll do to prevent the same mistakes in the future.

I'm doing good these days, but I made a lot of mistakes early on. So seems he's leaving some parts of the story out, unless they handle team drivers differently.

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Qualcomm:

Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
Christian T.'s Comment
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This is really bugging me, as I'm sure it also is Christian. Any triggered events have got to be reviewed, otherwise nobody learns anything from them. Is your DBL the final word on these reviews? Do you guys mean to tell me no one else looks into these matters before your Schneider DBL gives you the axe? That seems really strange, but so does this whole story.

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I actually dont know how he got so many without talking to anyone else, I've had my fair share of events and I always talked to someone from safety face to face, and I even had to give a written statement on what I'll do to prevent the same mistakes in the future.

I'm doing good these days, but I made a lot of mistakes early on. So seems he's leaving some parts of the story out, unless they handle team drivers differently.

That’s what I thought as well? The situation does not make sense to me either. I don’t understand how we got from point A to point B and it’s the weekend so I was not able to talk to anyone else. I live in CT, and was lampooned at the OC in Phoenix and given a greyhound ticket departing today. I just cannot help but feel an immense amount of disrespect and disservice done to me in the period of literally 3 weeks after driving dutifully for 6 months, hence my negative opinion of Schneider.

So what if any steps can I take from here?

PJ's Comment
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I read through this and it makes no sense to me either. First off your stuck for the weekend, not forever. Fighting city hall today won’t get you anywhere. I think your best bet is to head home and as soon as you get there contact the safety folks at the closest terminal. They should be able to investigate the situation. At a minimum it sounds like someone was neglegent by letting so many CE’s pile up before addressing it. You need to own your parts as well. This is a snowball rolling down a steep hill at this point. No matter what, you need more resolution than this if you want to stay in this business. As an employer I can guarantee you if I saw a DAC with that on it I would be very cautious to say the least. I drove some older trucks with the safety stuff on them, however it’s been awhile ago so I’m not up on that stuff.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Bruce K.'s Comment
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No DBL at Schneider has the authority to fire a driver. That decision has to come from higher up in management. That info came straight from my DBL. Now the DBL may be the one who delivers the bad news, but they are only the messenger.

Schneider has a written grievance policy and procedure. It's available to all employees and drivers. In that policy, it explains what to do and how to do it. It also explains what the company will do and what the time frame is. Christian should pursue this process if he feels he's been thrown under the semi. Christian can probably initiate this process online when he gets home.

Christian, I have one question. If they are sending you home on the bus, are you able to take all your truck stuff with you? Most drivers carry way more stuff than they can get to the bus station and get loaded. Just by itself, the driver's kingpin lock is heavy and bulky and is the driver's property. How are you managing this?

Christian T.'s Comment
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I read through this and it makes no sense to me either. First off your stuck for the weekend, not forever. Fighting city hall today won’t get you anywhere. I think your best bet is to head home and as soon as you get there contact the safety folks at the closest terminal. They should be able to investigate the situation. At a minimum it sounds like someone was neglegent by letting so many CE’s pile up before addressing it. You need to own your parts as well. This is a snowball rolling down a steep hill at this point. No matter what, you need more resolution than this if you want to stay in this business. As an employer I can guarantee you if I saw a DAC with that on it I would be very cautious to say the least. I drove some older trucks with the safety stuff on them, however it’s been awhile ago so I’m not up on that stuff.

Yes. After we went home for our first week after 6 weeks out, we got back to the truck and my first correspondence was an email with a new DBL, essentially threatening to put me out of service if I did not very in contact with him. He had apparently sent messages and made attempted phone calls to me, which I never received, until that email and upon calling him I was issued the CTE. Our previous DBL had never contacted me about critical events and apparently had quit while we were on leave at home.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

Christian T.'s Comment
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No DBL at Schneider has the authority to fire a driver. That decision has to come from higher up in management. That info came straight from my DBL. Now the DBL may be the one who delivers the bad news, but they are only the messenger.

Schneider has a written grievance policy and procedure. It's available to all employees and drivers. In that policy, it explains what to do and how to do it. It also explains what the company will do and what the time frame is. Christian should pursue this process if he feels he's been thrown under the semi. Christian can probably initiate this process online when he gets home.

Christian, I have one question. If they are sending you home on the bus, are you able to take all your truck stuff with you? Most drivers carry way more stuff than they can get to the bus station and get loaded. Just by itself, the driver's kingpin lock is heavy and bulky and is the driver's property. How are you managing this?

I will initiate this process just to hopefully clear my name and be able to move on from this debacle.

I left the kingpin lock on the truck with my teammate, who is a close acquaintance. my DBL refused to route me up north although I made this appeal to him that sending me home on a bus was impractical, but he said that was not possible. I actually had driving for 5 days after the last critical event for which I was technically terminated, which was something else that made no sense to me.

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