Released From Schneider Program / Job Due To Poor Backing

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Marc Lee's Comment
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Filled out the paid training app. Thanks Brett. Yes, it was quick!

(10 Street is a detailed application so clearly YOUR SUGGESTION was faster and easier). My bad.

You may (or may not) recall, I was already attending CDL school before I found TT.

Anne, I am currently ****il 11AM tomorrow, anyway) in a hotel with WiFi (being paid for by Schneider). Still need to "relocate" as all my stuff is several hours away and I get $750 when the one garage is emptied out. I also have a friend who can use some help for which he can pay me and provide housing while I do it, as well as refrigeration for a bunch of my insulin.

Hit the meeting. Blew off the Sushi.

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Noob_Driver's Comment
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If i remember correctly you were in wisconsin so ill recommend Millis again as well as Rhoel.

Dan67's Comment
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I went through inexperienced driver orientation at Schneider's Charlotte NC terminal a few years ago and my experience with them was awful. The only positive part out of the experience was the backing trainer. He was amazing. I had difficulty understanding the set up and seeing how the backing motion worked when alley docking. He did a through walk thru and explained it in great detail. It just clicked and I still do it the way he taught me today. Now why I did not go with Schneider was the pay.. The recruiter told me 38cpm but that ended up being 26cpm by the time I finished orientation. But I was kinda forced to pickup my first load to get paid for orientation. So I picked up the load and drove it right back to the terminal in Charlotte NC. I quit right then and there.. Called Werner and started orientation with them 2 days later..

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Truckin Along With Kearse's Comment
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So here is my question... are you trying to.get a job and go right into a "paid" position without going through school.again? That didnt seem to work at Schneider. So.are you asking these companies to go.through their schooling?

i would.just sign a contract and do the schooling all over again. it isnt going to hurt. that is IF they will even let you. some wont.

You seemed surprised Schneider let you go after not backing well... my guess is they basically gave you the CDL Exam to see how you would do. "more than 15 minutes" and "I think i GOALed 3 times" those are auto fails on the CDL Exam.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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And Brett, I understand what you are saying in your comment, but it comes across as kicking a man when he's down. Sometimes you are too harsh. I think criticism has it's value, but not the right timing. I know I'm going to catch hell for what I just said.

Sometimes you guys amaze me. We've got several of you in here currently who haven't been able to make a good start at this. You guys stay with us, but you don't follow our advice all that well. Now you want to act like we're kicking a man when he's down! Puuhhhleeeez! If there's one thing we want to accomplish it's helping you guys get started in this rewarding and lucrative career.

Sometimes we do everything we can only to be rebuffed by the guys who can't even keep their butt in the driver's seat. Bruce, you should catch hell. You're so silly you tried to show Marc how to back with your lawnmower and a trailer. C'mon man! Nobody gets started at this by dancing around the edges. It's a serious career for serious applicants. It's a serious commitment which most people can't muster.

Marc's having a hard time. He needs to take some hard advice. We can give it, because we've been there and made it happen.

Anne A. (G13MomCat)'s Comment
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It's Monday, Marc... just wondering if you've had any hits on your apps yet... ?!? The package app on here IS awesome.. I checked it out, myself... just not in a place to 'fly' yet myself.

Best wishes, Anne

Brett Aquila's Comment
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And Brett, I understand what you are saying in your comment, but it comes across as kicking a man when he's down. Sometimes you are too harsh. I think criticism has it's value, but not the right timing. I know I'm going to catch hell for what I just said.

Bruce, when a man is down would it serve him best to pity him, or to offer help?

Our job here at Trucking Truth is to coach people, and we do what we do because we care.

You're offering your condolences because it makes you feel good, it makes you look good, and because you don't know enough about trucking to actually help Marc with his career. I offer my help because I care about Marc becoming successful and I have the knowledge and experience that can help him accomplish his goals.

I'm not here to look good or to feel good or to make friends, though all of those things would be nice. The reason I'm here is to help people get better and find success in their trucking career. Someone who truly cares about helping another human being will do so any way they can, especially when it's hard or requires them to do something that isn't popular.

I was listening to a coaching session earlier today. The coach said to the client, "Listen, I care about you, but I'm not here to be your friend. You already have friends. I'm here to help you get better any way I can, and sometimes that means making you face uncomfortable truths about yourself."

If you listen to speeches given by successful people, they always thank the people who demanded the most of them, who didn't let them settle for less than they were capable of, and made them face the truth especially when they didn't want to. No one ever thanks anyone for their pity. We give people what they need to be successful, and pity isn't on that list.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Banks's Comment
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And Brett, I understand what you are saying in your comment, but it comes across as kicking a man when he's down. Sometimes you are too harsh. I think criticism has it's value, but not the right timing. I know I'm going to catch hell for what I just said.

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Bruce, when a man is down would it serve him best to pity him, or to offer help?

Our job here at Trucking Truth is to coach people, and we do what we do because we care.

You're offering your condolences because it makes you feel good, it makes you look good, and because you don't know enough about trucking to actually help Marc with his career. I offer my help because I care about Marc becoming successful and I have the knowledge and experience that can help him accomplish his goals.

I'm not here to look good or to feel good or to make friends, though all of those things would be nice. The reason I'm here is to help people get better and find success in their trucking career. Someone who truly cares about helping another human being will do so any way they can, especially when it's hard or requires them to do something that isn't popular.

I was listening to a coaching session earlier today. The coach said to the client, "Listen, I care about you, but I'm not here to be your friend. You already have friends. I'm here to help you get better any way I can, and sometimes that means making you face uncomfortable truths about yourself."

If you listen to speeches given by successful people, they always thank the people who demanded the most of them, who didn't let them settle for less than they were capable of, and made them face the truth especially when they didn't want to. No one ever thanks anyone for their pity. We give people what they need to be successful, and pity isn't on that list.

You sound like my trainer lol.

"I'm not here to be your friend, we can be friends later but right now we have to do this".

And that approach helped me a lot. Good enough didn't exist. He demanded perfection. He'd say

"State requirement is down here and mine is all the way up here. If you can get through mine you'll get to the state and that'll be the easiest test you've ever taken."

The other one I would hear all the time

" You wanna be a city driver or a part-time dock worker. It's up to you, I already have my job".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Marc Lee's Comment
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Thanks all!

Applied to 10-12 companies or so. One rejection (Prime, again, one "not in our hiring area", waiting or playing message tag with the rest. Applying as a CDL holder. Willing to do whatever (full class, or whatever). Just not turning in my license and endorsements to start over!

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Rob T.'s Comment
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Just not turning in my license and endorsements to start over!

Why not? You really have zero experience. You're going to re-learn everything anyways it's just a test. You passed it before why cant you again with more practice? The CDL you currently possess is more or less useless. To be honest if I were in your situation I'd find any company that's willing to take me on and do whatever it is they ask of me.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
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