The Verdict Is In……. 110 Years Concurrent Life Sentences

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Davy A.'s Comment
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Why has there been no mention of his behavior before he started down hill, no pun intended.

We set our speed, gearing and Jake BEFORE we start down hill.

The English comprehension comes into play long before the question of the escape ramp. There are signs in English warning of a steep down grade ahead and even state "truckers, max speed 45 MPH".

Descending hills was taught In CDL school, at least conceptually. The driver chose to start down the hill at too high of speed, he chose to use 24 people in their cars to slow his truck down, 4 of them burned to death. Horrible way to die. He's a coward and deserves more than he got. The company owners should be punished right with him.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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He made multiple bad decisions that day, for multiple reasons including trying to flee the scene and most likely the country.

He should have taken the ramp, or done anything to stop himself from continuing to be out of control. Heck he could have cranked the wheel and tried to roll himself over but instead he chose the worst possible option. He is lucky that was all the damage he did it could have been much much worse.

As far as it being a waste of tax dollars to lock him up, I disagree out of all the things money is wasted on, this is not one of them.

I agree with Banks what kind of job would he get? He would probably only be able to afford a few dollars a month. But you could sleep better know the family's get $200 a year so it doesn't waste your tax dollars. Plus I have a feeling he would just flee the country and the family's would get zip and he would get off free.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
John's Comment
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Truth is...

Every trucker should see a runaway truck ramp...

and know it is a ... you guessed it. A runaway truck ramp.

The language in which the sign is made - doesn't truly matter. The fact is that it is a requirement that ALL CDL holders..."read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, understand highway traffic signs and signals". If he couldn't read it - he should see the ramp and say to himself "Hey self, rampa de camión fuera de control" and off he goes.

And being he had been out that route at least twice prior...

He had seen them before...

He knows what they are, roughly where they are...and what they are used for.

He chose not to use them. He chose wrong, and he now pays the price.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Stevo Reno's Comment
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Today, I saw something I never thought I would've. The Petro station off I-40 W, about 20 miles from Kingman, Az. I see a semi and cars exiting there, and every one of em's brake lights on way early, THEN I saw WHY !!

A trucker was entering the I-40 on the EXIT ramp, he was maybe 3 tractor trailers long, onto it, NOW he was trying to back off the exit ramp.....I had to shake my head

PackRat's Comment
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Today, I saw something I never thought I would've. The Petro station off I-40 W, about 20 miles from Kingman, Az. I see a semi and cars exiting there, and every one of em's brake lights on way early, THEN I saw WHY !!

A trucker was entering the I-40 on the EXIT ramp, he was maybe 3 tractor trailers long, onto it, NOW he was trying to back off the exit ramp.....I had to shake my head

For some reason beyond me, the wrong way driving happens a lot in AZ. The state had spent millions and millions of dollars on all manner of technology to prevent this, yet it still happens frequently, in perfect weather.

Andrey's Comment
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Where did you find THAT? Spanglish?

Incorrect. Runaway Truck Ramp is: rampa de camión fuera de control (ie: Ramp for/from Truck out of for/from control.)

Anne, I had two sources. One is a Spanish-speaking trucker, he parked right ne t to me at a Pilot on US-30. The other one is Spanish Wikipedia. It gives several options: "Una rampa de emergencia de camión, runaway camino de camión, camino de escape, rampa de escape de emergencia o superficie de detención, es un elemento de las carreteras que permite que vehículos que estén sufriendo problemas con el sistema de frenado puedan detenerse con seguridad.

Your version is a description, while I meant an actual wording on a sign. I looked at some pictures from real roads, and saw only rampa de frenada signs. Maybe the guy has not been to Mexico for a long time... :-)

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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Where did you find THAT? Spanglish?

Incorrect. Runaway Truck Ramp is: rampa de camión fuera de control (ie: Ramp for/from Truck out of for/from control.)

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Anne, I had two sources. One is a Spanish-speaking trucker, he parked right next to me at a Pilot on US-30. The other one is Spanish Wikipedia. It gives several options: "Una rampa de emergencia de camión, runaway camino de camión, camino de escape, rampa de escape de emergencia o superficie de detención, es un elemento de las carreteras que permite que vehículos que estén sufriendo problemas con el sistema de frenado puedan detenerse con seguridad.

Your version is a description, while I meant an actual wording on a sign. I looked at some pictures from real roads, and saw only rampa de frenada signs. Maybe the guy has not been to Mexico for a long time... :-)

Gotcha.

To be honest, I'd even understand THIS one. I guess I'll get off my ESL soap box . . . but maybe his lack of THE LANGUAGE failed him, PRIOR to the signs???? I'd LOVE to see the hiring company/trainers own up. Didn't he recite the PreTrip in Ingles? (or not?)

This: I would't 'miss' ... in MOROCCO!

0768846001640143117.jpg Utilize your effing motor (or the ramp!) methinks? Close, I'm thinking. Idk. More like.. use this if your motor isn't your friend? I'd still get it.

Peace, y'all.

~ Anne ~

ps: Why didn't that Nebraska (iirc) guy that killed 3 (Don't quote me, i posted it earlier) get ANYTHING close to this sentence... because he could read?

Idk.

I'm over it.

Triple Six, Silent (and for anyone who knows that line.. KUDOS!)

Andrey's Comment
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When it comes to corruption, America is much better then a lot of other countries. Lower levels corruprion is almost nonexistant. Yet, there are some cases directly related to CDL certification. It is for a reason that not every state recignizes Florida licenses... In FL, and in a few other places, you can pay and get a real CDL-A in 2-3 days. It is not a fake license, local DMVs are in business. So I don't think this guy had any issues with pre-tripping in Spanish...

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Anne A. (G13Momcat)'s Comment
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When it comes to corruption, America is much better then a lot of other countries. Lower levels corruprion is almost nonexistant. Yet, there are some cases directly related to CDL certification. It is for a reason that not every state recignizes Florida licenses... In FL, and in a few other places, you can pay and get a real CDL-A in 2-3 days. It is not a fake license, local DMVs are in business. So I don't think this guy had any issues with pre-tripping in Spanish...

So much for 'Triple Six, Silent' but he usually comes back 'once more.' So, as will I, and NOT for a 'retort.'

Doesn't TransAm do something like that, ?!?!? If you lease?

Anyway ... Andrey . . . were you here when the Lobos stuff was going down? BRETT tried SO HARD to take them DOWN.

Then, they vanished.

Just. Like ^^ This.

I've been on TT for longer than my new sign in; AOL lost my 1st one.

I'll see.....brb....

Lobos.

Again, Peace!

Thanks, all. I've enjoyed my day. No hard feelings, any of y'all. Much obliged, tbh!

~ Anne! ~

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Banks's Comment
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ps: Why didn't that Nebraska (iirc) guy that killed 3 (Don't quote me, i posted it earlier) get ANYTHING close to this sentence... because he could read?

You'd see different sentences based on states and what he was charged with. The reason he got 110 years is because of the actual crimes he was charged with, not the event. Sentencing guidelines for the states say this crime carries this sentence.

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