Terminated By Schneider

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Rainy 's Comment
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My Jersey is coming out now people, so watch out. This is for all future readers.

I love the tone of elitism you express as a truck driver: you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser,

So truck drivers are losers? And you even failed at being a loser, so what does that say about you? The reason you failed is the attitude, which is discuss constantly on this forum.

probably .. a slave.

Hahahahh this slave paid off almost $70,000 in debts in 2 years and has banked almost that in 401k and savings in the other 2 years. Plus i do.whatever I want....and go home when/how long i want because I dont get critical events or have a **** poor attitude. Unlike you who were constantly on the phone with dispatch over critical events I can go months without hearing from dispatch. As a matter of fact... I have gone longer without talking to my FM on the phone than you have even driven, total.

Trying to condescend me is laughable. Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****.

You are acting more like someones ***** now than I am. At least I have the body parts for it. What is your excuse? I am not sure how you measure your self worth. Mine is in all of my accomplishments and how i treat others. Thus far, I am way way ahead of you.

If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life.

There is no ifs... it already is not working out. Trying to find a trucking job with safety issues on your DAC means a lower pay with a less reputable company. What will you do? Something easy I guess.

I don’t put up with bull**** and follow stupid rules. Maybe you do and if you live your life that way that’s fine! Good for you. I don’t.

Thank God you were never military, a federal employee , airline pilot, Amtrak engineer, or... well... a real trucker driver. You could have killed someone or killed yourself.

This statement just showed several things. 1) A lack of maturity. 2) A lack of responsibility. 3) A lack of respect for safety of others 4) A lack of understanding of life.

Now I realize he is probably very young. Six months OTR probably seems like a long time, but it takes a whole year for one to grasp the skills and mental abilities to handle this job.

He belittled truck drivers, yet most who try, fail. Sounds like an easy job huh?

I am going to put this into perspective for new or future drivers. During training (Sept to Feb) I got one critical event. It was my fault.

2 years later, i received 2 critical events which were the sensors picking up a shadow from bridges. The safety department removed them from my record. Over a year later, my new truck had more sensitive sensors and i got 2 rollover alerts. that was me getting to know the truck, they were not removed.

So in almost 4 years I have gotten 5 total, two were removed. That leaves 3 events in a little less than 4 years.

When we are talking 17 in a matter of a month or two, that is insane. it is either the truck or the driver.

The truck could have been looked at. He had it in the shop but doesnt even know if they looked at it. Why not? I stay with my truck when it is shopped and make sure the mechanic does all that is asked and i ask them questions.

That means it was the driver at fault. A driver in jeopardy of losing their job almost always has the ability to be re-trained before being terminated. Going back into training may be embarrassing, but it demonstrates determination and a willlness to learn. Often people who take an attitude with the company are fired before offered the re-training. Why would they bother when this person will have another issue later?

I love the people who say things like "they wrongfully or illegally fired me". Many states are "at will" states. They do not even need a reason to terminate someone. However, ompanies who recruit do not go around terminating people for no reason. There was a reason. Probably more than one.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

James B.'s Comment
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So this may be kicking a dead horse here but I recently started with Schneider and yes they have a grievance process 3 levels actually so an Appel can go pretty high up. It is also true as every new driver is told in orientation our DBL can not fire us they can put in reports to management that all. It is also a Schneider policy that after X amount of critical events the driver is sent back for training to see if it is trading or attitude. Schneider can retrain someone but they can’t change attitudes. My guess is this was more attitude than actual mechanical issue

Christian T.'s Comment
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I love the tone of elitism you express as a truck driver: you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser, probably overweight, and a slave. Trying to condescend me is laughable. Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****. If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life. I don’t put up with bull**** and follow stupid rules. Maybe you do and if you live your life that way that’s fine! Good for you. I don’t.

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Another classic reaction! I love calling someone out and then watching them have a meltdown because they're embarrassed how easily you were able to see through their entire charade. Classic. It must be hard realizing you're not as clever as you thought you were.

You're not even smart enough to realize that your reaction just totally gave you away, not that I believed much of anything you said to begin with.

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you’re a truck driver. You’re a loser, probably overweight, and a slave.

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Wow, are you ever right about anything???

I'm not a truck driver anymore and I'm certainly not a loser. I'm a retired truck driver who had a fantastically fun and safe and successful 15 year career and now I'm a very successful business owner. I'm certainly not a slave, whatever that means in 2019. I'm also in fantastic shape.

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Trying to condescend me is laughable

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Actually it was easy......

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Ooooo I’m not good enough for Schneider oh I’m so ashamed of myself because my measure of self worth is my ability to drive a truck and be someone’s *****

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Says the guy who was just booted to the curb and is on his way back to his mom's basement and his video games.

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If this endeavor doesn’t work, I’ll do something else with my life

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I've got news for you. It's already not working, and it's not going to. You can't see that yet, but I've been watching this same story play out for 25 years. It always ends the same way.

Well, I guess that wraps up this mystery. Great job, Christian. You've made a monumental ass out of yourself. I knew you would accidentally reveal your true nature and the essence of what really happened if we let you keep talking.

Man, that was fun.

Next!

Sounds like you took that personally, mission accomplished. Lol. Was hoping you’d ban me as a moderator I’ve been banned from like 10 forums. It’s an art form. One of us takes themselves too seriously and it’s not me.

I did tell my DBL to “go **** himself” so do you think I should send him a card or something? But i’m Not an ass kisser and that’s no way to get ahead in life. It’s about being able to live with yourself at the end of the day. Once you give that up you have nothing. On the company driver side of things, it’s about sucking up, taking your lashings, not questioning authority, and allowing yourself to be stepped all over and taken advantage of. Humility has nothing to do with it.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Rainy 's Comment
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I just approved this last comment to demonstrate we finally got to the truth.

He used profanity and disrespect with his DBL and wonders why he lost his job? He sees life as a game and has no place driving a killing machine.

Thanks Schneider for removing this type of guy from our highways!

Old School's Comment
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Well, we tried the gentle approach to getting him to tell the truth, but sometimes you just have to punch somebody in the nose to get them to talk!

He's singing like a bird now!

Pay attention newcomers, pay attention!

You will come across fellas like this repeatedly. They blame and criticize everything and everybody in this industry. They are always being done wrong, and they are way too special to let these idiots get away with treating them that way. It's all a bogus attempt at covering up their own shortcomings and failings at trucking.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I think this conversation has been incredibly helpful. It demonstrates perfectly some of the most critical points we talk about here all the time. It shows how careful you have to be about taking career advice from the wrong people. It also shows the lengths people will go to in order to protect their own vanity. This guy completely fabricated most of this story. He was willing to tell lies, mislead innocent people, and try to ruin the reputation of a great company in a pathetic and desperate attempt to save himself the embarrassment of his failures. He had even said:

This is a completely transparent account of events.

That, along with much of his story, was a blatant lie. He's treacherous, that's for sure.

If you think back to the beginning, Christian played the "poor me" card perfectly. He portrayed himself as the innocent victim. He made it sound like he did everything right and put all of the blame on the people at his company, and even the truck itself. He made himself sound like a nice guy who was doing a great job but suddenly was crushed under the wheels of a ruthless and uncaring mega carrier.

One of the many great lessons I've learned in life is to be patient and allow people to keep talking. Encourage them to embellish their story. People who are foolish enough to fabricate stories often feel compelled to keep adding details to the story in order to make it sound more believable.

Unfortunately their story becomes like a jenga tower. It appears to be solid at first when it's small, but as they add more lies it grows taller and becomes less stable. You'll soon notice that some critical pieces seem to be missing, while others that don't seem to fit quite right are holding the entire tower together. Remove those critical pieces and their entire story comes crashing down.

Then, of course, the grand finale comes after the collapse when they go into a tirade and tear into you. They know it's over. Their story has crumbled and there's no hope of saving it. They're seriously embarrassed and it almost always comes out in a fierce tirade. That's always my favorite part - the meltdown. Game over.

Some of the pieces that didn't seem to fit for me were:

1) He was fired but his co-driver was not. I knew there was a reason for this. It was a critical missing piece.

2) He never talked with anyone from safety. Never have I heard of someone being fired for safety violations without even talking to the safety department.

3) He was on a bus home but was then told that the company handled it wrong and he was being given his job back. Highly, highly unlikely.

4) At first he had said only 5 of the 17 events had been reviewed and they all happened on "fairly straight roads". But then he said, "But when you are turning left from a stop at a light and register a critical event...." ......hmmmmm......this is the first time he mentioned anything about triggering one during a turn from a stop light. I thought they all occurred on fairly straight roads?

5) We heard from other Schneider drivers who couldn't make sense of the story.

6) We heard from other drivers who had transitioned to newer trucks and found them to be far more sensitive to critical events. However, these drivers were willing and able to adapt to the new sensors just fine.

Finally, one of the best ways you can tell a story is bogus is when the person telling the story claims to have done absolutely nothing wrong. Everything was someone else's fault. They do nothing but complain, blame, and criticize everyone and everything without taking any responsibility upon themselves for any of it. How often is someone truly 100% innocent of all wrongdoing?

Unfortunately it takes a lot of experience in this industry to be able to identify when certain people are lying. That's one of the most important services we offer here at Trucking Truth and it's obviously the reason I picked that name. We'll tell you the truth about how this industry works and we'll expose the lies that are so prevalent across the Web.

We know what it takes to get your career off to a great start and become a top tier driver in this industry. We also know the pitfalls that often lead to failure. We tell it like it is in trucking, both the good and the bad. We'll do all we possibly can to help those who seek our advice and we enjoy it immensely. We won't pull punches if someone needs an attitude adjustment or if they're full of crap, and I have to admit I enjoy doing that too.

Well this was a fantastic lesson in how to identify someone who is full of crap. It's also a great lesson about the type of people who always complain, blame, and criticize.

Here are some really fantastic resources related to this conversation:

You're Getting Career Advice From The Wrong People

What It Takes To Be A Top Tier Driver

Stop The Fear And Doubt: Focus On Your Own Success

Terminal Rats Are Derailing Trucking Careers

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Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Rob T.'s Comment
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You are acting more like someones ***** now than I am. At least I have the body parts for it. What is your excuse?

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Brutal!

Rick S.'s Comment
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Sounds like you took that personally, mission accomplished. Lol. Was hoping you’d ban me as a moderator I’ve been banned from like 10 forums. It’s an art form. One of us takes themselves too seriously and it’s not me.

I did tell my DBL to “go **** himself” so do you think I should send him a card or something? But i’m Not an ass kisser and that’s no way to get ahead in life. It’s about being able to live with yourself at the end of the day. Once you give that up you have nothing. On the company driver side of things, it’s about sucking up, taking your lashings, not questioning authority, and allowing yourself to be stepped all over and taken advantage of. Humility has nothing to do with it.

I've pretty much stayed out of this - because I know how these threads end up.

While there may be a legitimate grievance here, with how the sensors were misreporting incidents - the lack of immediately documenting the weird sensors and getting them looked at, as well as the manner in which things were communicated, appear to be as much a part of your termination, any actual issue with the sensor setup on the truck itself.

Mods don't ban - BRETT DOES. And when a user degenerates into trolling (mission accomplished) and looks to get banned - they USUALLY DO. Being kicked off of many forums is not a "badge of honor", but the mark of a problem child.

Some users here to the "tough love approach" - because we've heard pretty much every story going here at TT, based on years of reading stories here (and on other boards).

There have been reports in the industry of maladjusted sensors (usually a software update cures it), hard braking for shadows, overpasses, etc. Nothing is perfect yet (at this point), but if the truck was having computer issues, it should have been reported immediately (and constantly) on the QC (for documentation purposes), and you should have insisted the truck be brought in for service.

If your attitude and dealings with people HERE, are similar to the way you dealt with ppl at your employer - the excessive critical events may have just been the excuse they used to "get rid of a problem child". People who troll on internet boards, tend to be trolls in real life too -

Since you've already expressed that you don't want to get back to that employer - your goal here is to appeal and mitigate the damage you've done in your relationship with them. Getting blacklisted on a DAC for excessive safety violations, can be the KISS OF DEATH to any future employment in the industry.

Take a CHILL PILL - though I have no doubt if your attitude and responses here continue, you'll be able to say you were banned from 11 FORUMS. And in all honesty, we're pretty tolerant here, you have to work hard for Brett to just throw up his hands and ban someone.

Rick

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Marc Lee's Comment
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We hope you've enjoyed the show!

IMMENSELY!

Thanks everyone who (tried to help this loser) and for telling it like it is! smile.gif

Stevo Reno's Comment
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LOL

We hope you've enjoyed the show!

IMMENSELY!

I have seen SOOOO many like this in my years online since the internet began ! Sooner or later the REAL person comes out in the end, as this 1 has done too !!

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