Stay Out Of Democrat Cities

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Thomas D.'s Comment
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If a rifle with a magazine can be called an assault rifle, does that make my hand gun with a magazine an assault hand gun? I know it might sound like I'm making light of the subject, but being an Army veteran who trained with the M16A2 with the single shot and three round burst, and as an owner of a Ruger AR-15, which one shoots one round per trigger pull, I feel the "assault rifle" name to be inaccurate. Being in West Virginia, I hunt, and know a great many others who hunt as well, and have seen the entire spectrum of hunting rifles, from .243 Winchesters all the way up to .45 lever actions. The highly villainized AR-15 is a 5.56 NATO, based off of the .223 caliber round. Regardless of caliber or manufacturer they all have one thing in common, and that is they only fire one round per trigger pull. And yes, according to WV hunting regulations, I can use my AR to hunt game with if I choose to do so.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Davy A.'s Comment
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These issues along with another one that you have unwittingly brought to light, censorship of dissident viewpoints, loom very large for new people entering the industry.

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Censorship of dissident viewpoints.... cute. The issue here is too many get up on their soap box and start spouting off misinformation that can lead to career ending and life altering arrests (and later convictions.) These posts are also admissible in court, establishing intention. Not to mention many of the larger carriers maintain an in-house presence on this and other forums, and keep an eye out for posts from their drivers which may be actionable to prevent liability or at the very lease a PR issue down the road.

Using the term "Democrat cities" only serves to inflame. We all know where the rioting takes place; the inner cities where crime is already prevalent, where drivers (and everyone else) should be aware of their surroundings anyway. If you're down town in a large city, you need to be paying attention.

Talk of running over protesters/rioters? Stupid post establishing premeditation. Large carriers were pretty clear about how they would handle drivers stating they'd intentionally run over people, and it wasn't a pat on the back. The same DA's that won't prosecute rioters, theives and arsonists are the same that will giggle at the chance to put you away for life.

This industry isn't just for conservative Republicans anymore. My last three trainees have been progressive leftists, which has lead to some interesting (but always respectful) conversations and a general agreement to disagree. We are more than our political party affiliation.

The fact is, our gun laws are so different from state to state that carrying a firearm in your truck across state lines can land you with a lengthy prison sentence. NY and NJ are perfect examples of this. Until we have national reciprocity for CCW, it can't legally be done in all states (and even that would require a permit.) Just because you or I might live in a constitutional carry state means jack when we cross state lines. Believe me, I want to change that as much as you do, and the best way to do that is to vote for politicians and policy, and support organizations that advocate for the cause. But even then, there are issues that will still exist for drivers who choose to carry.

Most (all?) states allow private property owners to ban weapons on their private property, including Florida and Texas, and in Texas the sign says a violation is a felony.

Every large carrier I'm aware of with one notable exception has a policy or practice of banning weapons, especially firearms, from their property, trucks under their DOT and that contract with them. They're serious about it because it otherwise exposes them to massive liability if one of their drivers uses their weapon inappropriately. And then there's the driver at the mega carrier who shot his dispatcher , which is why several companies put them behind bulletproof glass.

In the end, drivers are going to make their own choices about which laws and policies they're going to violate, but shouldn't be surprised if they're confronted with content they posted publicly.

If you're concerned about your safety, by all means stay out of the areas with higher risk, but stuff can happen anywhere. Anyone remember the PFJ in Knoxville? Or the line haul driver taking shots from the off ramp? If you're concerned about being pulled out of your truck, lock your doors and keep your windows up, then drive away.

Be smart and be safe.

Yes, gun laws very widely state to state, its incumbent on the permit holder to make themselves knowledgeable as to the laws and regulations of the states. USCCA has a variety of resources available, including insurance and legal defense in the event that one ever needs to use it. I have been a member for years, highly recommend it.

While from your standpoint, many get up on a soap box as you put it, that is the nature of public forums. One of the few places left, however where debates can and should still take place. In trying to squash opinions contrary to yours, that is very much censorship of dissent by definition. The irony is that this is a peer based forum. Why not let truth seek its way naturally through the forums here as it does.

Democrat ran cities is certainly not inflammatory, its factual. There is a distinct cause and effect relationship between cities that have had decades of democratic rule and diminished safety within those cities.

Certainly, many businesses can currently and do regulate and prevent employees from carrying concealed or otherwise. There is current litigation on the issue, some states have ruled on it and are changing it. It is a complex legal issue, and one that I wouldnt choose to push right now. There are very few large carriers that allow their drivers that are ccw permit holders to carry.

As always, polite and civil discourse is a must.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Line Haul:

Linehaul drivers will normally run loads from terminal to terminal for LTL (Less than Truckload) companies.

LTL (Less Than Truckload) carriers will have Linehaul drivers and P&D drivers. The P&D drivers will deliver loads locally from the terminal and pick up loads returning them to the terminal. Linehaul drivers will then run truckloads from terminal to terminal.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

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Kerry L.'s Comment
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Democrat ran cities is certainly not inflammatory, its factual. There is a distinct cause-and-effect relationship between cities that have had decades of democratic rule and diminished safety within those cities.

Davy, now that's just not factually accurate. and here is an example:

Fort Worth, Texas, which has had one of the highest murder rates in the nation for quite some time, even at one time being the highest murder rate in the nation. It's not a Democratic run city. How do you explain the discrepancy between your statement, which you claim to be fact and the truth of a city like Fort Worth?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Turtle's Comment
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Fort Worth, Texas, which has had one of the highest murder rates in the nation for quite some time, even at one time being the highest murder rate in the nation. It's not a Democratic run city. How do you explain the discrepancy between your statement, which you claim to be fact and the truth of a city like Fort Worth?

Citation? State your source, please. Because I can't find Fort Worth even among the top 65 cities in the nation for murder rate.

Of the Top 20 cities with the highest murder rates in the country, 19 are Democrat led.

US cities with highest murder rate

Deadliest US cities

Andrey's Comment
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I can use my AR to hunt game with if I choose to do so.

Absolutely. AR-15 in .223 is my main deer rifle.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Robert B. (The Dragon) ye's Comment
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I can use my AR to hunt game with if I choose to do so.

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Absolutely. AR-15 in .223 is my main deer rifle.

I haven’t used an AR in .223 for hunting but I do have one in 6.5 Creedmoor that I use for hogs and elk.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Davy A.'s Comment
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Fort Worth, Texas, which has had one of the highest murder rates in the nation for quite some time, even at one time being the highest murder rate in the nation. It's not a Democratic run city. How do you explain the discrepancy between your statement, which you claim to be fact and the truth of a city like Fort Worth?

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Citation? State your source, please. Because I can't find Fort Worth even among the top 65 cities in the nation for murder rate.

Of the Top 20 cities with the highest murder rates in the country, 19 are Democrat led.

US cities with highest murder rate

Deadliest US cities

Turtle beat me to it. Multiple sources confirm the link between democratic control and violent crime. In addition even the CDC revealed that areas with higher gun ownership controls have exponentially higher crime as a result.

Chief Brody's Comment
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Please note the democratic majority on the City Council.

Ft Worth City Council

Trucker Chris (CK)'s Comment
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Those of us who are informed certainly know there is a correlation between large cities run by democrats and higher crime rates, centers of rioting, etc. My point is, why not list this cities in the OP? I mean, last I checked my atlas doesn't depict a large D or R over any cities to denote the political affiliation of it's leadership. But I can see this discussion is futile.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Davy A.'s Comment
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Those of us who are informed certainly know there is a correlation between large cities run by democrats and higher crime rates, centers of rioting, etc. My point is, why not list this cities in the OP? I mean, last I checked my atlas doesn't depict a large D or R over any cities to denote the political affiliation of it's leadership. But I can see this discussion is futile.

I could see your point under other circumstances. I would submit in this case though, given the democratic controlled cities sanctioning and even promoting the riots and violence of the left that it's a reasonable statement to avoid them.

It assumes that in response to the verdict, the left would riot and loot specifically in Democratic areas as that's where the least resistance, if not open acceptance of their actions will be.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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